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Attention Governor Perry: Evolution is a fact (Oh, Really?)
The Washington Post's On Faith ^ | August 23, 2011 | Richard Dawkins, British Evolutionary Biologist/Author

Posted on 08/23/2011 12:49:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Q. Texas governor and GOP candidate Rick Perry, at a campaign event this week, told a boy that evolution is ”just a theory” with “gaps” and that in Texas they teach “both creationism and evolution.” Perry later added “God is how we got here.” According to a 2009 Gallup study , only 38 percent of Americans say they believe in evolution. If a majority of Americans are skeptical or unsure about evolution, should schools teach it as a mere “theory”? Why is evolution so threatening to religion?

A. There is nothing unusual about Governor Rick Perry. Uneducated fools can be found in every country and every period of history, and they are not unknown in high office. What is unusual about today’s Republican party (I disavow the ridiculous ‘GOP’ nickname, because the party of Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt has lately forfeited all claim to be considered ‘grand’) is this: In any other party and in any other country, an individual may occasionally rise to the top in spite of being an uneducated ignoramus. In today’s Republican Party ‘in spite of’ is not the phrase we need. Ignorance and lack of education are positive qualifications, bordering on obligatory. Intellect, knowledge and linguistic mastery are mistrusted by Republican voters, who, when choosing a president, would apparently prefer someone like themselves over someone actually qualified for the job. Any other organization -- a big corporation, say, or a university, or a learned society - -when seeking a new leader, will go to immense trouble over the choice. The CVs of candidates and their portfolios of relevant experience are meticulously scrutinized, their publications are read by a learned committee, references are taken up and scrupulously discussed, the candidates are subjected to rigorous interviews and vetting procedures. Mistakes are still made....

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Yeah, we need brilliant people like Al Gore, Barack Obama, Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi to lead us!
1 posted on 08/23/2011 12:49:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m trying to find where any President in American history has signed a bill or proposed executive action having to do with evolution. Need some help here.


2 posted on 08/23/2011 12:51:32 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has anyone run this “evolution” thing by the Islamists? The ^other^ people of the book? Where do the Muslims stand on the science of evolution?

Hint: they will slit your throat and lop-off your head if you think that man was not created.


3 posted on 08/23/2011 12:53:23 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sadly Gov. Perry makes the same mistake many people, even educated ones, make.

Most people think it goes like this: Guess->Hypothesis->Theory->Fact

That is 100% wrong.

A Scientific Theory is a broad framework that explains something in the natural Universe. It is the HIGHEST level of understanding in science.


4 posted on 08/23/2011 12:53:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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Dawkins is from the school that believes biological life was created when lightning struck a mud puddle.
5 posted on 08/23/2011 12:57:02 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Perry got unemployment down to 4% he could think man came from cockroaches and no one would care.


6 posted on 08/23/2011 12:57:17 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He might be right but he’s still a d!ck.


7 posted on 08/23/2011 12:57:31 PM PDT by bkepley
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Has anyone run this “evolution” thing by the Islamists? The ^other^ people of the book? Where do the Muslims stand on the science of evolution? Hint: they will slit your throat and lop-off your head if you think that man was not created.

Actually, as near as I can tell - even though I would have expected them to have been what are called 'Young Earth Creationists' - the islamics seem to adopt the standard 'theistic evolutionist' model. That is, they are fine with 'goo to you' evolution - just that 'Allah' was behind it...

If you find anything different - let me know.

8 posted on 08/23/2011 1:00:21 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Why is evolution so threatening to religion?

Why is religion so threatening to most evolutionists that they refuse to allow students to be told of both theories?

There are some elements to evolution which have moved beyond disputed science but the how-we-all-got-here explanation of godless evolution does indeed have gaps, holes and unsupported theories, of which a true scientist would readily admit if they were honest.

Creationism, too, has its holes and gaps which they explain as being the Creator's design. Scientifically, it may be an unsatisfactory answer but the Creator never promised to reveal all his secrets.

Evolution, OTOH, has no godhead to explain away the gaps so it is scientists who must provide factual proof of every step of their hypothesis, not merely a chastisement of those who see differently.

No doubt if evolutionists could prove God doesn't exist, they would have already done so, but they can't so they try to discredit and demonize anyone who dares disagree with them rather than offering the definitive proof that we request.

Same is true with the Global Warming scientists, and look how their ideology has led them to mistrust by the general public.

9 posted on 08/23/2011 1:01:15 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s Richard Dawkins. Do you really need to know anything more?


10 posted on 08/23/2011 1:01:55 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government rushes to help the irresponsible and does little for the responsible)
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Sorry, you are incorrect. Above Theory is Law such as the case for the law of gravity or the law of thermodynamics. A scientific law must always apply under the same conditions, and implies a causal relationship between its elements. These two areas are where the theory of evolution fails to meet the standard for a law.

A theory is NOT the highest level of understanding in science.


11 posted on 08/23/2011 1:02:38 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does not deserve to be a topic in a National Presidential Election.


12 posted on 08/23/2011 1:04:45 PM PDT by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Texas governor and GOP candidate Rick Perry, at a campaign event this week, told a boy that evolution is ”just a theory” with “gaps” and that in Texas they teach “both creationism and evolution.”

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Shoulda finished the quote. It's Priceless.
 
"In Texas, we teach both creationism and evolution in our public schools – because I figure you're smart enough to figure out which one is right."


13 posted on 08/23/2011 1:07:18 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suppose he has facts to back that up? Oh, there is a reason its still called a theory?


14 posted on 08/23/2011 1:07:42 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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Actually, Doctor, de-evolution is a fact. Just look around. And if you think I’m talking about Governor Perry, you’re not paying attention.
15 posted on 08/23/2011 1:10:17 PM PDT by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon... and man, is He ticked off. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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To: Personal Responsibility

He might be right but he’s still a d!ck.

But he is right. I lost my tail just last week in the stock market;-). Kidding, of course.


16 posted on 08/23/2011 1:11:18 PM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m no scientist, and I’m not any religious expert, but I’ve always felt that evolution and creationism are completely comatible.

Just as we look at a Model T and compare it to a modern Ford auto, we can see the “evolution” in the car. But it came from a creator. The hand of God can still be present in the evolution of his creatures as he perfected them from one generation to the next.

The purpose these evolution arguements are two-fold: to remove God from the minds of the people and to ridicule those who believe in him.


17 posted on 08/23/2011 1:11:18 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“Dawkins is from the school that believes biological life was created when lightning struck a mud puddle.”

It’s funny though how they’ve never been able to explain how that happens, much less reproduce that in a lab.


18 posted on 08/23/2011 1:13:16 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (First Mitt, then 0bama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Modern science (DNA) tells us that ... “About a thousand genes are shared by every organism, however simple or complicated.” Ref: Page 284 in “Darwin’s Ghost” by Steve Jones.


19 posted on 08/23/2011 1:19:16 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: freedumb2003
A Scientific Theory is a broad framework that explains something in the natural Universe. It is the HIGHEST level of understanding in science.

No, that would actually be a Law. That is why whe have a Law of Gravity, and several Laws of Thermodynamics. Some theories have been disproven and are therefore no longer even theories.

20 posted on 08/23/2011 1:23:31 PM PDT by VRWCmember (If it wern't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all.)
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