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Don't spin the Civil War
Washington Post ^ | 12.27.10 | E.J. DIONNE jR.

Posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:54 AM PST by trumandogz

The Civil War is about to loom very large in the popular memory. We would do well to be candid about its causes and not allow the distortions of contemporary politics or long-standing myths to cloud our understanding of why the nation fell apart.

The coming year will mark the 150th anniversary of the onset of the conflict, which is usually dated to April 12, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened fire at 4:30 a.m. on federal troops occupying Fort Sumter. Union forces surrendered the next day, after 34 hours of shelling.

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To: Bikkuri

It wasn’t his/her catch. moe-jo just came around later to pick at the bones.


821 posted on 01/01/2011 8:59:01 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Darren McCarty

There are saints in/from the North?! :o


822 posted on 01/01/2011 9:10:14 AM PST by Bikkuri
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To: mac_truck

Interesting that, in the rush of vitriol over verisimilitude this morning, none of the LCL’s have chosen to respond to that inconvenient truth.

Oh wait - there was one oblique reference here: “If that’s the case, how can you support the unconstitutional federal intrusion into legal Southern labor practices?”

Simple-minded to the point of imbecility, but it does demonstrate the cognitive dissonance necessary to defend their Lost Cause nirvana. They must prefer pretzel logic because it reminds them of food ;-)


823 posted on 01/01/2011 9:11:13 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: rockrr
;) Happy New Year :) Bikk
824 posted on 01/01/2011 9:12:18 AM PST by Bikkuri
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To: rockrr
Simple-minded to the point of imbecility, but it does demonstrate the cognitive dissonance necessary to defend their Lost Cause nirvana.

Occam's Razor.

Of course, that doesn't work for you yankee neo-cons. It's easier for you to hide your lies when you wrap them up in convoluted, long-winded nuance as practiced by John F'n Kerry, obama, etc.

BTW, how many Southern states will you be born and raised in by the end of 2011?

825 posted on 01/01/2011 9:38:36 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway
Pal, I'm come to realize that you and your buddies are nothing but provocateurs constantly spoiling for a fight where none should exist.

And you are the nitwit dumb enough to think trying to tear apart a country because of a regional rivalry is anything to be proud of.....
826 posted on 01/01/2011 11:28:34 AM PST by MikefromOhio (There is no truth to the rumor that Ted Kennedy was buried at sea.....)
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To: cowboyway
I maintain that you're not a conservative because if you were you wouldn't approve of constitutional violations by the federal government, an unlawful war that included crimes of humanity against non-combatants and a powerful centralized federal government running roughshod over the states.

I maintain you aren't a conservative because you constantly whine, complain and demagogue those who point out that you are consistently shilling for a system that held your fellow man in bondage. Conservatives believe in FREEDOM, FOR EVERYONE. The CSA was about freedom for those who weren't slaves.
827 posted on 01/01/2011 11:30:06 AM PST by MikefromOhio (There is no truth to the rumor that Ted Kennedy was buried at sea.....)
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To: central_va; bushpilot1; cowboyway

If you check Thumpers past posts, he’s not a CW thread’s poster. I have to wonder why he showed up on Trumandogz’s(also not a CW thread poster). Rather odd I would say, especially in light of the fact that NS tried to use his reserve 2001 screen name. Makes me go hmmm. Thumper’s been called a troll on many other threads which I also find interesting.


828 posted on 01/01/2011 11:31:22 AM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: cowboyway

• On MSNBC McCain just told press “this would be their last trip on this airplane”
Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:00:21 PM • 55 of 57
Thumper1960 to Terry Mross
Well.................
As a former Marxist, I can tell you that voting for any Marxist is the stupidest thing anyone could ever do. I can understand the frustration. But, never, ever give any Marxist a single angstrom. You may live long enough to regret it.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2125166/posts?page=55#55

They’ve Got Mail!
Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:42:00 PM • 43 of 64
Thumper1960 to MikeFrancesa.com
Conservatives will only become winners and victors when they cease to be cowards, wimps, pu$$ies and Milquetoast Tinkerbells.
Hasn’t any conservative ever read Alinksy?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2085489/posts?page=43#43

• Why is the old Georgia flag still on FR?
Monday, May 31, 2004 6:46:04 PM • 14 of 574
Thumper1960 to AntiGuv
Every time I pass through Atlanta, I light a book of matches in solemn memory of days gone by.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1145318/posts?page=14#14

If This Healthcare Bill Gets Crammed Down Our Throats
Friday, March 12, 2010 10:54:48 PM • 44 of 46
Thumper1960
Revolt?
I doubt it.
Americans are spineless and weak. Americans will sit back and take it....and enjoy it. Then move on to something else to whine about.


829 posted on 01/01/2011 11:35:04 AM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Just another typical Marxist drama queen. :)


830 posted on 01/01/2011 11:53:28 AM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: mojitojoe

I really need to stay away from these threads..prefer the Obama eligibility ones. Since my distant gggrandfather was a Confederate soldier it is difficult to stay away. Some years ago..these threads were 10,000 plus posts.


831 posted on 01/01/2011 11:56:41 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: central_va; TexConfederate1861; cowboyway

“accuse the opposition of what you are doing” ..

Seems to be outing a few more here .. Maybe a few more incoming (or should I say outgoing) zots?

Some of these posts are literally giving me a headache :/


832 posted on 01/01/2011 12:02:09 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: lentulusgracchus

He’s out of control. Once a Marxist always a Marxist. They never change.


833 posted on 01/01/2011 12:06:04 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Thumper1960

Lincoln was president and had blood on his hands. He waged war on other Americans as a sitting President. It’s hard to imagine today how deadly the War of Northern Aggression really was. The numbers are staggering—approximately 620,000 dead soldiers, at least 50,000 dead civilians, an estimated 6 million pounds of human and animal carcasses at Gettysburg, can’t convey the concrete horror of a nation living day after day with the shock, disorientation, and despair caused by the bloodiest war in the country’s history. The war years surely did transform the nation into a republic of suffering. The number of Civil War soldiers who died is about equal to the number of American dead from the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War, Spanish-American War, World War I, World War II, and Korea combined. Carnage caused by an American President. Stunning. I hope Sherman and Lincoln are deservedly rotting in hell.


834 posted on 01/01/2011 12:16:16 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Our boy Thumper is a nasty one, and if the mods sympathize with you and him, well, I can’t do anything about it except acknowledge that the pool table is listing a bit.
______________________________________________
DITTO!


835 posted on 01/01/2011 12:18:20 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: mojitojoe

Yeah, I’m starting to wonder how many “back-up” names N-S has.... :/

Bikk


836 posted on 01/01/2011 12:30:32 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: cowboyway

If it wasn’t for all of you damn marxist hippies from 30 years ago we wouldn’t be where we are today.
_____________________

Best statement in this entire thread and true, it is.


837 posted on 01/01/2011 12:34:47 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: central_va

Pow! Bingo!


838 posted on 01/01/2011 12:40:31 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Bikkuri

Happy New Year to you and your family too!


839 posted on 01/01/2011 12:42:18 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: rockrr

I never said I did! 2 other FReepers caught it. Joined by many others, we just put the info together to prove it and made sure it got into the right hands. I can see you’re still in mourning. Too bad. Mr. POE.


840 posted on 01/01/2011 12:44:28 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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