US State Dept Confirms: Obama “NOT” a US Citizen Prior to & in 1968

ConstitutionallySpeaking ^ | 9/24/2010 | ConstitutionallySpeaking

[patlin]

proof positive that Obama was ”NOT” a US citizen prior to & in 1968...Sept. 24, 2010

Dear Sen. Thune,

As a member of the Armed Forces Committee & member of the sub-committee on Personnel, I am imploring you to please take this seriously & take immediate action...

[patlin]

“THANKS”! I’ll add this as an update to my blog post.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

"If a person included or to be included in the passport or documentation has, since acquiring U.S. citizenship, been naturalized as a citizen of a foreign state; taken an oath or made an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state.....the PORTION OF WHICH APPLIES SHOULD BE STRUCK OUT.

The "portion which applies" is from the list of potentially expatriating acts. None of them are struck out. Striking out little Barack's name only means that he's not being included in this application.

[jamese777]

It doesn’t matter, there is still a “FORMAL” process that had to have taken place by either Obama’s mother or Obama himself to renounce the foreign citizenship. Why do you think Obama doesn’t want his school records exposed? Why do you think that he ONLY attended private school his entire life? It’s not rocket science, its common sense.

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Barry Obama attended Noelani Elementary School for kindergarten and for third grade. Its a public school.
http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/ObamaKindergartenLarge.jpg

[patlin]

UPDATE: HAT-TIP to rolling_stone at Free Republic:

Via Sonoran News via obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com - Ike needed birth certificate to run for president - ‘Ike had nothing to hide!’

[Lady Jag]

It's dated 2/1/08

[danamco]

Additional, here’s a real hero, Patriot who needs support in an attempt to save our nation from being “TRANSFORMING” into a Marxism led country, and ignore and don’t feed the hungry “paid”(?) SPs aka Benedict Arnolds!!

Support Lt Col Terry Lakin

September 28th is the next hearing date for discovery. Thus far it has been denied because it just might “embarrass” Obama. Read all about the Obama administrations abuse of this highly decorated active military doctor who has served in 2 wars & is still packed & ready to go if only the commander in thief would pony up his papers. Just as every other member of the military has to do prior to each & every deployment.

March 30, 2010

The Honorable Barack Obama
President of the United States of America
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear Mr. President:

For more than seventeen years, I have had the privilege of serving my country as a member of the U.S. Armed Forces, including overseas assignments in imminent danger/combat areas in Bosnia and Afghanistan.

The United States is an example to the rest of the world of a stable, civilized democratic government where all men are created equal and the rule of law is cherished and obeyed. The U.S. military teaches and promotes the rule of law and civilian control of the military to many other nations and militaries around the world. Every soldier learns what constitutes a lawful order and is encouraged to stand up and object to unlawful orders. My officer’s oath of office requires that I swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

I recently received deployment orders for a second deployment to Afghanistan. My orders included a requirement to bring copies of my birth certificate. I will provide a certified copy of my original birth certificate with common, standard identifiers, including the name of an attending physician and a hospital. Every day in transactions across the country, American citizens are required to prove their identity, and standards for identification have become even stricter since the terrorist attacks on 9/11.

Since the fall of 2008, I have been troubled by reports that your original birth certificate remains concealed from public view along with many other records which, if released, would quickly end questions surrounding your place of birth and “natural born” status. Many people mistake the online Certification of Live Birth for an original birth certificate. Until the summer of 2009, the Hawaiian Department of Homelands would not accept this Certification of Live Birth to determine native Hawaiian identity–the Department insisted upon also reviewing an original birth certificate. Many do not understand that the online document was from 2007, generated by computer, laser-printed, and merely a certification that there is an original birth certificate on file which may or may not be sufficiently probative. An original birth certificate is the underlying document that presumably includes a hospital and attending physician’s or midwife’s name that should lay to rest the “natural born” dispute.

In 2008, after pressure from the news media, Senator McCain produced an original birth certificate from the Panama Canal Zone; a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing examined and affirmed his “natural born” status and Constitutional eligibility to serve as President. The U.S. Senate was silent about your eligibility, despite statements from Kenyan citizens that you were born in Mombasa, including your paternal grandmother and the Ambassador from Kenya to the U.S. during a radio interview. Hawaiian state officials claim they cannot release an original birth certificate without your consent.

I have attempted through my chain of command for many months to get answers to the questions surrounding your eligibility. I also sought answers, unsuccessfully, through my Congressional delegation. You serve as my Commander-in-Chief. Given the fact that the certification that your campaign posted online was not a document that the Hawaiian Department of Homelands regarded as a sufficient substitute for the original birth certificate and given that it has been your personal decision that has prevented the Hawaiian Department of Health from releasing your original birth certificate or any Hawaiian hospital from releasing your records, the burden of proof must rest with you.

Please assure the American people that you are indeed constitutionally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief and thereby may lawfully direct service members into harm’s way. I will be proud to deploy to Afghanistan to further serve my country and my fellow soldiers, but I should only do so with the knowledge that this important provision of our Constitution is respected and obeyed. The people that continue to risk their lives and give the ultimate sacrifice to the service of our country deserve to know they do so upholding their vows to the oath of office and the Constitution.

Unless it is established (by this sufficient proof that should be easily within your power to provide) that you are constitutionally eligible to serve as President and my Commander-in-Chief, I, and all other military officers may be following illegal orders. Therefore, sir, until an original birth certificate is brought forward that validates your eligibility and puts to rest the other reasonable questions surrounding your unproven eligibility; I cannot in good conscience obey ANY military orders.

Respectfully,

// Terry Lakin

Lieutenant Colonel Terrence Lakin, USA

[rxsid]

That's right.

Barry was born, by birthright, a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England. Inherited from his foreign father, regardless of where he was born.

At best, he was born with conflicting allegiances. There is no chance the framers would have considered someone born with multiple allegiances a "Natural Born Citizen" as required for the position of Commander in Chief.

He's a usurper. Rush, Hanity, Levin, et. al. are afraid of the issue for whatever reason...

$$$$$$$$

[jamese777]

Again, you are trying to legitimize your usurper using “current” US statements of the State Dept. Show me where they say this from 1961-1968. Perkins v. Elg was the most current SCOTUS case at the time and thus the precedent for this case.
Just another lame argument coming from one who didn’t even know the difference between “analogous” & “synonymous” in the WKA deciding opinion that has been misinterpreted for over a 100 yrs.

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Ah yes, “Perkins v Elg,” decided by the Supreme Court of the United States in 1939 and holding that a child born in the United States to alien parents and raised abroad retains U.S. citizenship until the age of majority, and at that point continues to retain U.S. citizenship if he or she elects to retain it, and elects to return to the United States and assume the duties of a U.S. citizen.
Thanks so much for reminding me about the high court’s ruling in Perkins v Elg.

[patlin]

OK, so I forgot about a photograph that says he attended kindergarten at a public school. So What? What does a photograph prove in a court of law? NOTHING! There is also a picture of him that says he was in the 3rd grade in Hawaii, however witnesses(former Indonesian classmates) have stated that he was in Indonesia in school. These photos do not prove anything and that is all that is, just photos posted online by obama koola-aide drinkers. These are not official documents. Not one document that has been posted online has been verified by any government or judicial official.

[phockthis]

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[danamco]

He, Palin, Breitbart, Rush, Glenn, Hannity and the rest of FOX paid talking heads and their gag-ordered guests plus Clarence Thomas are all EVADING the real truth by lacking COJONES. They even refuse to discuss the NBC issue in any form or shape!!!

[SaraJohnson]

If ever justice is done in this case, there are going to be a lot of embarassed elitists.

[patlin]

...retains U.S. citizenship until the age of majority, and at that point continues to retain U.S. citizenship if he or she elects to retain it, and elects to ...assume the duties of a U.S. citizen.

Ah, yes thank you for the corroboration...

if he or she elects . . .

It's that pesky positive act a person with foreign allegiance must take upon the coming of age. As I asked: ...when did Obama or his mother formally renounce this foreign citizenship that has now been verified by the US State Dept? Where are those records?

[rxsid]

"If ever justice is done in this case, there are going to be a lot of embarassed elitists."

Including a whole lot of (R)'s and so called conservative / constitutionalists.

[danamco]

The article appeared on page 6A with a dateline of Sherman, Texas. It was headlined: “General’s birth certificate officially filed,” and stated, “A certificate recording Dwight Eisenhower’s birth in Denison on Oct. 14, 1890, was filed Wednesday [Oct. 1, 1952] in the Grayson County Clerk’s office.

“Nobody had bothered to make out a certificate when the Republican presidential candidate was born in a house at the corner of Lamar and Day streets in nearby Denison.

“A copy of the certificate filed Wednesday was mailed to Mrs. Eisenhower in Denver. Eisenhower’s older brother, Arthur, signed the certificate. It was also signed by the Grayson County Judge J.N. Dickson and recorded by County Clerk J.C. Buchanan.”

David Dwight Eisenhower was the third of seven boys born to David Jacob and Ida Elizabeth.

Since he was called Dwight while growing up, Eisenhower swapped his first and middle names when he enrolled at West Point Military Academy.

Elected 34th president of the United States in November 1952, Eisenhower made it through his first 62 years without any need for a birth certificate.

However, the need arose when he became a presidential candidate. Since Eisenhower was the oldest man to be elected president since James Buchanan over 100 years earlier, age was obviously not at issue. Instead, there was protocol in place for presidential candidates to provide proof of eligibility to appear on the ballot.

Would anyone ever doubt that Dwight was NOT a NBC???

[Red Steel]

I posted this on another thread that mysteriously disappeared. This thread is a more appropriate place for it.

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To: PA-RIVER

She had an earlier passport. Destroyd for a reason.

That is under dispute. The State Department appears to be giving misleading excuses.

They even admit that they keep the issued passport records since 1925:

"The U.S. State Department’s website states that “Passport Services maintains United States passport records for passports issued from 1925 to the present. These records normally consist of applications for United States passports and supporting evidence of United States citizenship, and are protected by the Privacy Act of 1974, (5 USC 552(a)). Passport records do not include evidence of travel such as entrance/exit stamps, visas, residence permits, etc., since this information is entered into the passport book after it is issued.”"

And

"On April 8, 2008, the National Archives held a symposium on “passport records” designed to inform attendees about “passport applications that are in the custody of the National Archives and those that still remain with the U.S. Department of State.” A second presentation was held two days later at the College Park, MD location of the National Archives."

The article here.
GSA refutes State Department’s claim about destruction of records

They say they "did not locate" Stanley Ann Obama Soetoro passport records. ...or is it they didn't look in the right places on purpose?

From the court ordered requested FOIA letter above:

..."Many Passport applications and other non-vital records from that period were destroyed during the 1980s in accordance with guidance from the General Service Administration."

Many and non-vital records? As in NOT issued passport for incomplete or insufficient applications? So the US State Department did not admit that Stanley Ann Soetoro's record were actually destroyed. I'm seeing weasel words.

She had an earlier passport. Destroyd for a reason.

[conservativegramma]

That link doesn’t carry any weight because its current law. What did the State Department say in 1968?

That is what’s relevant.

[patlin]

weasel words is an understatement.

[SonsOfCollins_Wallace]

While the issue COULD be resolved the fact is that it hasn't been. And this does make sense when viewing Zero as an agent of a foreign power(s) that is/are efforting to destroy America (NWO/Islamist/atheist-Humanist/others?!?!).
We are at War but the basic&true American citizens are just now coming to that extreme and rational realization.

There is NO precedent for seating an illegal President because this whole matter has revealed a serious flaw in COTUS (constitutional crisises are not our norm) and it will be corrected soon or sooner.
The fight is an in-progress action presently but this usurpation will not stand under our laws....

[patlin]

However, the need arose when he became a presidential candidate . . . there was protocol in place for presidential candidates to provide proof of eligibility to appear on the ballot.

I just sent another request to both Thune’s DC & Sioux Falls offices asking when this “election protocol” was abolished. I'll find out more on Monday. This gives him the weekend to come up with some lame excuse to time to stiffen his spine. I'm putting my money on the former.