Posted on 05/10/2010 3:17:06 PM PDT by Davy Buck
"If Lee was a traitor (and I don't believe he was), he would be the only traitor for which a ship in the United States Navy was ever named. He would be the only traitor in Statuary Hall at the U.S. Capitol. He would be the only traitor whose image was used in a positive way to recruit military personnel to fight and win WWII. Quite an accomplishment for a "traitor", wouldn't you say. . ."
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might as well just put everything conservatives stand for he is against and looks for amusement on here to wind people up from the safety of his computer
you got mail too
If we really want to look at 'causes' then let's look at all of them.
It was NOT "all about slavery".
If it was "all about" something, it was "all about" the future, and the right to say what the future would be.
Politically binding, perhaps, but not legally so.
It was twaddle, too.
No, and if you somehow stumbled to that conclusion then it is par for the course for you. The Supreme Court plays no real role in the ratification process.
All they had to do was "do it" -- with or without trial. The man was in their hands. Why not?
Go ahead, say it.
As I’ve said several times before, had I been in Lincoln shoes, I would have executed Lee and Davis for high treason. Lincoln was way too gracious for that, indicating in the case of the latter that he’d prefer if JD got on the nearest boat out of the country.
Defense of slavery was by far the single most important reason for the rebellion. You can talk about other causes, but the simple fact of the matter is that take away slavery and leave every other cause you care to mention and the South doesn't rebel. Leave slavery and remove every other cause and the South still rebels. Simple as that.
Or in the admission of States to the Union, or in secession.
Generally the way it works is that the Congress ratifies a treaty before it can be signed and treaties are between Governments.
A treaty signed before ratification cannot be ratified.
None of this has anything to do with secession and the consent of the governed except it is a bad attempt to deflect from the issue of the thread.
Shooting prisoners out of hand was a confederate trait. While many wanted to see Lee and Davis swing, fortunately for them and for the country most did not.
Incorrect. The Nullification Crisis confutes you.
Absent the slavery issue, if Lincoln and his Party of the North had continued to push Morill forward in the language and "diplomacy" Lincoln and the GOP used up to Sumter, you'd have got the same result. The North was slapping the South around, demonizing them and vilifying them over political differences escalated to sectional differences, and proposing to take all their marbles away and make them Yankeeland's bitch hoe.
That was the issue.
Plus which, he was dead before Davis was captured, and only a few days after Lee surrendered.
The decision no execute or not, was made by Andrew Johnson.
Lincoln knew the value of martyrs, and chose not to create them. So, apparently, did his successor.
Lincoln's statements about slavery in the first year of the war prove it.
Why don’t you girls just get a room?
Admission? No. But once a state has been allowed to join then the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction over all cases in where a state may be a party. That includes illegal attempts at secession.
It was not A cause. It was THE cause.
Lincoln's statements about slavery in the first year of the war prove it.
And the statements of Stephens and others prove that it was the cause for the rebellion, from the confederate point of view.
South-hater now? I think I need to leave all y'all alone for the evening. You and central_va are getting so foul-tempered that I can see the spittle fly and the veins throb. I'm afraid you'll throw an aneurysm or something. Wouldn't want that, now would we?
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