Never, EVER forget that Obama's famed "birth certificate" was given to
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Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
The cert numbers are 637 and 641. You gave the example of clerk 1 getting 1-25 and clerk 2 getting 26-50. Going by 25’s might make sense.
But what kind of division of numbers would make the break between 637 and 641? And that division would have to last for 3 days...
provide a link to back it up
Interesting, thank you.
Never, EVER forget that Obama's famed "birth certificate" was given to
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Everything was manual in 1961 which is what makes it totally unbelievable that you expect everything to be in sequential order by date. It’s not like they had a central computer database in 1961 with data entry terminals at each clerk’s desk.
And they also likely wouldn’t get up and walk over to obtain a certificate number from some central office location after each and every record. Each clerk was likely given a set of certificate numbers that she could use to stamp the BC. They could even have been assigned their own book of certificate numbers so they didn’t have to obtain a new set so often.
I think you’re operating on assumptions that can’t be assured as totally accurate given the timeframe and manual processing methods that were used back then.
Two August 1961 birth certificates does not a pattern make.
If I were those two, I think I’d be heading for the hills. lol.
Yeah, wave the white flag, it’s over, we’re defeated, surrender now or someone might get hurt, 0bama and his band of marxist psychopaths won, give up.
That’s the spirit! /not
That statement really deserves its own thread, IMO.
I’m typing on my blackberry and am unable to start a thread at this time. Is anyone up for putting up the thread?
If you’re not an 0bama-suckup, what you need to do is use FR’s search function (such as it is) and read solid for about two weeks.
Then you’ll be sort of up to speed. Maybe, if you have lots of time every day.
Yes, I do. I've processed plenty of government records to understand the concept.
It seems like the DOH rules allowed for a very smooth rhythm. I would imagine that if there were several clerks in the registrar’s office, there would have been one who did birth certs, one who did death certs, and another who did marriages. The person would know what they were looking for, the regs they had to follow, etc.
I could see that person sorting out all the certs received that day that were complete and stamping them with certificate numbers, bing, bing, bing and then date, bing bing, bing. Then looking at the incomplete certs or certs that had affidavits attached and filing them however they had to be done, whether requesting more information or whatever. If everything checks out within that day, stamp it with the next number and the date.
lol.
I want to make a t-shirt that says, “Proud Vexatious Requestor” and wear it all over.
We’re finally to the point where they’re fighting us rather than ignoring or ridiculing us. I feel like it’s transition time, the contractions are getting stronger and closer together, and the birth is coming soon. lol.
Obama should know never to mess with a mama in labor fighting for the life of her child.
| She’s confirmed Obama was born in Hawaii. Problem is, nobody is listening. Yes we are, parsnip. Therein lies the problem when decrypting bureaucratic double-speak from those loyal to Barry Obama who rely on the loopholes within Hawaii §338 (the statutes governing Hawaii "birth certificates"):
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said. |
BuuckT, your messiah is screwed and tattooed. Can you say forgery?
Let’s suppose that there was an authorized registrar at the hospital. She likely would have been a head nurse or someone like that. It’s likely that she would have been the one to stamp the date filed because it seems to coinside with the date the doctor signed the certificate. Her signature wouldn’t be enough even in 1961. She would have needed to reflect a date somewhere.
Then let’s suppose that her weekly stack of certificates are sent to the state for verification and certificate number assignment. The clerk at the state registrar’s office receives a pile of paperwork with the 8th on the bottom and the 11th on the top because that’s how the hospital stacked it in their outgoing tray. The clerk approves and stamps the certificate number on each paper working from the top down in the stack.
Do you see what I’m getting at? There are multiple plausible explanations for why those dates and numbers don’t match up in your mind. That’s not to say that your theory is totally wrong or disproven. I just want you to consider that there could be other explanations before you jump off the bridge screaming that you’ve proven the COLB a forgery.
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So, you've processed birth certs in Hawaii in 1961 or any other state for that matter in 1961?
Births are not cars and neither are semi's who have to have prorate licensing for multiple jurisdictions. To this day, applications are processed in order received. Ask me how I know?
I filed our prorate licensing renewal last week, I called the SD dept of reg & regulation (Ashlie the state employee assigned to our account) to make sure it was received and all the paperwork was in fact in order. I was told it had been received but had not been processed and would be processed and subsequently go out in order that they came in.
So your theory is just conspiracy. You have no proof to back it up other than supplication on your part aka humbly asking us to take your word for it.
So you’re trolling about eligility and homosexual agenda threads.
Cool.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm
I think I also heard it on CNN, but it’s been a while.
parsy
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