[BuckeyeTexan]

Everything was manual in 1961 which is what makes it totally unbelievable that you expect everything to be in sequential order by date. It’s not like they had a central computer database in 1961 with data entry terminals at each clerk’s desk.

And they also likely wouldn’t get up and walk over to obtain a certificate number from some central office location after each and every record. Each clerk was likely given a set of certificate numbers that she could use to stamp the BC. They could even have been assigned their own book of certificate numbers so they didn’t have to obtain a new set so often.

I think you’re operating on assumptions that can’t be assured as totally accurate given the timeframe and manual processing methods that were used back then.

Two August 1961 birth certificates does not a pattern make.

[butterdezillion]

It seems like the DOH rules allowed for a very smooth rhythm. I would imagine that if there were several clerks in the registrar’s office, there would have been one who did birth certs, one who did death certs, and another who did marriages. The person would know what they were looking for, the regs they had to follow, etc.

I could see that person sorting out all the certs received that day that were complete and stamping them with certificate numbers, bing, bing, bing and then date, bing bing, bing. Then looking at the incomplete certs or certs that had affidavits attached and filing them however they had to be done, whether requesting more information or whatever. If everything checks out within that day, stamp it with the next number and the date.

[BP2]

> Two August 1961 birth certificates does not a pattern make.

On its own, maybe or maybe not.
Everything can be explained away like you're doing now.

But Credibility matters in the "Court of Law" as well as the "Court of Public Opinion". Even an unskilled "law professor" like Obama knows this. Charisma, sophistry and a sharp-looking suit only goes so far when the witnesses' stories stink to high hell.

What is the likelihood Obama has lied about or covered up facts surrounding his birth? Put another way ...

On the scale of LIES vs TRUTHS, where is Obama's Credibility?

Even his supporters — who Obama's lied to the most — know the answer to this.

No matter how you may try to defend Obama ... you KNOW this is true.

And YES it DOES matter.

[mojitojoe]

If BO walked up to you and said my father was Frank Marshall Davis and my Mom went to Canada and gave birth, you would say....”SHHHHHHHH, don’t tell anyone and you secret be safe with me bro.”

[BP2]

It’s not like they had a central computer database in 1961 with data entry terminals at each clerk’s desk.

Gosh Brown-eye,

It's amazing those cavemen in the "Stupid Ages" — before the the Personal Computer was invented — were able to get by.

However, IBM invented the Standard 5081 punched card in 1928, based from a format used by the US 1890 Census ... which, in turn, were based upon various punched cards before it, including punched cards first used around 1725 for controlling textile looms in France.

The Army routinely used punched card to send data back and forth between Hawaii and the mainland before the Pearl Harbor attack. The State of Hawaii government also used punched cards to track data — especially information such as "birth certificates" — necessary during the exponential population explosion going on the islands following WWII.

Magnetic tape became into use in 1952.

IN FACT, Hawaii Act 31 in 1962 financed the development of three computer centers to augment and consolidate existing computer data processing needs of all State of Hawaii agencies.

So, yes, they had ways to computer track and manage birth certificates, death certificates and other vital statistic documents back in the 1960s and before.

[bgill]

Each clerk was likely given a set of certificate numbers that she could use to stamp the BC. They could even have been assigned their own book of certificate numbers so they didn’t have to obtain a new set so often.

That is not how I filed and recorded births.

[dinodino]

Yeah, I agree with you. I think this Nordyke BC number theory is a non-starter, unless the State of Hawaii had only one person assigning all of the BC numbers.