Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Thanks, I think the penny just dropped. I'm an Australian, now I will have to check where's Taunton?
never said nothing about shirley jean applebee- dates are wrong
Shirley Ann Dunham, born November 27, 1942 was the mother of Barack Hussein Obama Jr., born August 4, 1961. She married Barack Hussein Obama Sr., 1960, in Hawaii, United States. She was the great-great grandaughter of Jacob Mackey Dunham, born May 7, 1824. He was born a Virginian and a long-time Tipton County, Indiana resident who settled in Kansas and then moved and died in Oklahoma.
Oklahoma Territorial Census, 1890 and 1907
Name: Jacob M. Dunham
Gender: Male
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Birthplace: Virginia
Relationship: Head
Family Number: 476
Race: White
City or Township: Oklahoma City
County: Oklahoma
State: Oklahoma
Census Year: 1890
Years in US: 65
Line: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob M. Dunham 65
Louisa Dunham 53
Joseph Dunham 24
Samuel Dunham 19
Mary M Dunham 8
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1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Joseph Dunham
[Jacob Dunham]
Home in 1900: Kickapoo, Lincoln, Oklahoma
Age: 74
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Birthplace: West Virginia
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse’s Name: Louisa
Race: White
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Dunham 74
Louisa Dunham 62
the rootsweb i posted above was updated 3-24-13..- you are saying they are wrong and you are right? I guess if anybody needs there family traced, they can just call you..
Fyi concerning taxes, custody, etc
Link with info on claiming dependents and custody. Also citizenship.
Hope this helps sort things out.
FOF 2(a) states:A parent can amend an original BC for up to a year without Court adjudication. After a year, parent must file a complaint with the Family court. If the Court orders a new BC, then the "date accepted" will be changed to "date filed."
Egan and Gina are the parents of three minor children. The Certification of Live Birth issued by the State of Hawaii for each child indicate the following:
(a) [CHILD ONE] was born on September 11, 1996 in the County of Honolulu. Mother's Maiden Name is Gina Lenee' Butera. The initial Certification of Live Birth did not identify a father for [Child One]. Gina, with Egan's consent, arranged for another Certification of Live Birth to be issued which identified Father's Name as Egan Hajime Inoue. The second Certification of Live Birth indicated that the date accepted by the State Registrar was September 17, 1996.
Many thanks, seizethecarp :)
The dependents name would be on that tax return.
The “related by birth” would have to have some document to back it up, correct?
That MAY BE where that “home birth” type of b.c. would come into play.
Child One was 3 1/2 when the BC was changed.
I remember that, I used to have the newspaper cutting with the photograph of little baby Stanley Ann Dunham with her father in uniform.
But I lost it when my comp crashed.
And that link doesn’t show anything - the article has gone.
I agree with you about the 1971 visit being about nationality.
IIRC, The fightthesmears site mentioned 0 and his father and nationality, and I think it may have been scrubbed.
That’s why they don’t want details of that 1971 visit coming out; would corroborate what fightthesmears said.
Your evaluation of 0 SR w.r.t his sons by Ruth is spot on!
Back in those times it was a big deal for “the family name” to be carried on by the next generation.
“This has NOTHING to due with Ann losing CUSTODY or the Dunhams or someone else gaining custody (as some have erroneously claimed (absent a court order of which there is no evidence). It is simply a matter of who is claiming Barry as a dependent in that year, which can only be done on one return, not two.”
It’s confirmation of Lolo and Ann losing custody. Furthermore, “date filed” on his COLB and “date accepted” on his original BC is confirmation there was Court adjudication of Obama’s birth record more than a year after his birth.
And there’s the missing page from the Obama divorce. Most likely, it was a copy of Obama’s original long form BC redacted from a finalized divorce record because the Family Court ordered it sealed and archived after the Soetoro adoption. Documents sealed by Court order are legally void. Consequently, there was a Court order to redact the copy of the original long form BC from the divorce record.
The "2" refers to a footnote found at the bottom of the Appeals Court opinion.
The family court did not make any findings about when this change occurred, and neither Gina nor Egan testified at trial about when it occurred. However, Jean Chun (Ms. Chun), a Child Protective Services (CPS) social worker with the Department of Human Services (DHS), investigated Gina's allegations of domestic violence against Egan and testified about statements that Gina made to her about when the birth certificate was changed. Ms. Chun testified, in part, about an entry in her records of investigation as follows:
Q. [By counsel for Egan] At the top, you indicate that Ms. Inoue stated that she put Mr. Inoue's name on [Child One]'s birth certificate when her daughter was 3 and a half years old. They were not asked questions when they went to the Department of Health, but only told the clerk that they were now married and wanted to put Mr. Inoue on [Child One]'s birth certificate. That's a statement that Mrs. Inoue made to you - -
A. That's correct. (2)
2. In contrast to the timing reflected in Ms. Chun's testimony, Gina stated in several affidavits in support of pre-trial motions that "[Gina] did put [Egan] on the birth certificate when [Child One] was about a year old so that all the children would have the same name as [she has] and the other children have," and that "[Gina] did add [Egan] to the birth certificate after [Egan] and [she] were married and [she] was pregnant with [Child Two]." However, the affidavits were not admitted into evidence at trial.
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