Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[rxsid]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)

[WildHighlander57]

The wife’s parents address where she lived may not have been important at that stage; it was not at a formal investigation yet... he got out before they could go after him about not supporting a wife and child.

Questions to all, for discussion purposes:

For what reason would INS be skeptical about whether Barack Obama was the father?

To what advantage would it be for BHO to admit having a wife and child in 1961?

[WildHighlander57]

See my #10917 about added -on info

[WildHighlander57]

Ping to post #10920

[LucyT]

Senior’s Immigration file

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File

Scroll to page 20...File shows Senior having a wife in Kenya before he came to USA, file also references wife in Philippines that is a U.S.C. (United States Citizen?) Further, in the handwritten note under the typed message states he might have a wife in CAMBRIDGE, also.

[Fred Nerks]

It’s not the short memories - it’s that there are lots of new freepers who are starting where we left off.

[Fred Nerks]

You really would know if the name appears more than once by now...if you had looked through the file to which I provided the link, several times. There’s nothing like seeing it for yourself.

[Fred Nerks]

And it’s been thoroughly proven that the kenyan student who arrived in New York on August 9, 1959, wasn’t part of the airlift, the first of which landed at Idelwild September 19.

[Fred Nerks]

...For what reason would INS be skeptical about whether Barack Obama was the father?

because, if you read throught the file, you'll find that they were suspicious that the marriage was a fake.

[Greenperson]

One thing that I’m coming up with, regarding your list starting at 10850: I’m getting mighty confused!

So the Alien Registration is dated Sept. 1962, but it says his dob is 1934. That’s on page 1 of the INS documents. Page 3 is from Oct. ‘62, and it also says 1934.

This is going to take me a lot longer to figure out than I have time for today. I’ll get back to you.

[Greenperson]

Hi, Fred. It’s going to take me some time to absorb all this. I’ll catch you later.

[Fred Nerks]

Here's the reason why the kenyan student never made it on the airlift, the students that did were selected and vetted by Tom Mboya, who would NEVER have recommended the inclusion of Barack Hussein Obama Onyango, and there's absolutely NO evidence that they were 'friends' as claimed over and over again...while the kenyan student was supposedly getting married to Kezia and working as a clerk in Nairobi - Tom Mboya, WHO WAS SIX YEARS OLDER was AT OXFORD IN ENGLAND.

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The Daily Mail is reporting that Barack Obama’s controversial and legally-contested hold on the executive office just got a great deal more complicated. Documents released this week by the British Foreign Secretary reveal that Obama’s father, Barack Hussein Obama, Senior, was the target of an international investigation due to his ties to Kenyan terrorists groups. The top secret files, which had been suppressed for decades, were privately condemned by administration officials who feared they would undermine Obama as polls show him trailing Republican contender Mitt Romney by at least five points. They also highlight the mounting public evidence tying Barack Jr. to communist sleeper cells and long range plots to undermine American democracy.

A memo from a British diplomat in Washington to Whitehall -- released today by the National Archives in West London -- sets out their concerns about the young Kenyans.

Dated September 1, 1959, it says: "I have discussed with the State Department. They are as disturbed about these developments as we are. They point out that Kenya students have a bad reputation over here for falling into the wrong hands and for becoming both anti-American and anti-white."

In one of the Foreign Office files, the future president’s father appears on a list of Kenyan students as "OBAMA, Barack H" -- they shared the same name.

SOURCE

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[WildHighlander57]

Page 36 says he was going to school and got his income from scholarships.

It wasn’t the airlift but it was still assistance.

[Fred Nerks]

Hi Green! Don't lose to much sleep over it, the entire file is full of it. The simplest explanation might be that he changed his birth year to coincide with the mistake made initially. We've been led to believe this document is a fake, but if it isn't, if what we see here was the initial attempt to lodge an application for a birth certificate which might give rise to a birth announcement in the Honolulu papers, then this is the first time he's shown to have a birth year of 1936.

We have to keep in mind that the regulation mentioned on the bottom of that item didn't come into force until the early eighties iirc. Maybe Madelyn (per grandmother) attempted, unsuccessfully or successfully...to obtain a COLB on the strength of it.

And 'birthplace Kenya' might just be there because it doesn't point to where he was really born. In other words, what we are looking at could be a report of an out-of-state birth, of a child whose mother and father we have no idea who they were.

[Fred Nerks]

See if you can find the AASF as sponsors on any of the immigration documents.

Tom Mboya’s connection to the kenyan student is a myth. There’s nothing that ties the Kenyan to the AASF that I can see.

His ticket to Hawaii was paid for by Elizabeth Mooney. He only had enough money for one or two semesters. And when Elizabeth married, she could no longer send him money. His sponsors are then shown as THE AFRICAN AMERICAN INSTITUTE.

[Fred Nerks]

Nice one, but what’s the significance? The passport image we have been presented with may or may not be genuine, and what does it tell us? That he started out claiming he was born in 1934, not 1936? I think we already knew that, didn’t we? Or that he didn’t include his family? He didn’t inclde them on his immigration docs either.

[Fred Nerks]

It’s too early in the day for a headache...

August 31, 1961. He’s got a birth year of 1934.

That makes him 27 three weeks after the Hawaii Miracle Birth. But the LFGBC SHOWS HIM AS 25. (As does the document with the ‘per grandmother’ notation)

April 21, 1964. His birth year shows as 1936.

You need time to absorb all this you say? I need a shrink or a drink.

[Seizethecarp]

“We’ve been led to believe this document is a fake, but if it isn’t, if what we see here was the initial attempt to lodge an application for a birth certificate which might give rise to a birth announcement in the Honolulu papers, then this is the first time he’s shown to have a birth year of 1936.”

I agree that this forgery is a good approximation of what such a filing would look like, but the talented forger knew that.

The forger neglected to remove stray marks in block 19a that were from signatures on the real BC that was used as a base onto which forged signatures were cut and pasted. On the web there are images of the original and the stray marks in 19a match perfectly.

Note that Madelyn’s name is misspelled, although people don’t always write all the letters in their name in a signature as it morphs over time.