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What Karl Rove Should Tell La Raza
Human Events ^ | 07/10/06 | The Human Events View

Posted on 07/10/2006 5:42:12 PM PDT by garbageseeker

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To: Texasforever
They tried a bit of creative writing to make their point.

They're good at obfuscating the truth. Misquoting Reagan and Hayworth in the same thread.

481 posted on 07/10/2006 11:10:26 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: rottndog
The whole first half of the speech is about people coming from all over the world to be AMERICAN.

Right, that's what I was saying, in a much different way.

482 posted on 07/10/2006 11:11:29 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Texasforever

Becuase you know in your heart that you support him but just did not have the nugas to admit that you support President Clinton and the Bush illegal immigrant plan.


483 posted on 07/10/2006 11:11:34 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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Goodnight!


484 posted on 07/10/2006 11:12:15 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: garbageseeker
Becuase you know in your heart that you support him but just did not have the nugas to admit that you support President Clinton and the Bush illegal immigrant plan.

Clinton had no plan to fix the border.

485 posted on 07/10/2006 11:12:45 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: claudiustg

Not the same by far.

When allowed, people will return home after working here...we know that from the example set by the old Bracero program. And you might spend sometime looking up the growth in the illegal alien population in the US, and find out that it began to explode immediately following the shut down of the Bracero program.

If you make it legal to come, work, and go home, you will significantly reduce the number of people trying to enter the country illegally...why enter illegally when there's a legal way to enter?

You can them control illegal border crossers more effectively with less personnel.

How can you not think that having a controlled entry and departure method does not equate to border control?


486 posted on 07/10/2006 11:13:21 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: garbageseeker

LOL. You know my "heart" do you? Can you see how many fingers I am holding up?


487 posted on 07/10/2006 11:13:22 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Clinton let in 20 million illegal immigrants in the 1990s
488 posted on 07/10/2006 11:13:43 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: oneteacher
The teacher's union is what is exactly wrong with education.
Disband the union and start over.

Unless we can bill Mexico, quit educating them in our schools, send illegals kids to tents on the weekend.

10k kids with one teacher. More than what they get at home IMO.
489 posted on 07/10/2006 11:13:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Howlin

Nothing 'namby-pamby' in Hayworth's tome
By Carrie Sheffield

In his new book, Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.) says that White House adviser Karl Rove accused him of racism when the congressman expressed his disdain for a proposed U.S.-Mexico agreement that would prevent double-taxing citizens from both countries for Social Security.

“The president thanked me for being candid and said he would consider my views,” Hayworth writes. “But Rove became somewhat exasperated and spluttered, ‘You just don’t want to help brown people, do you?’”


http://tinyurl.com/jfo3s


490 posted on 07/10/2006 11:14:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: garbageseeker
Clinton let in 20 million illegal immigrants in the 1990s

So? Reagan allowed 6 million to stay. It's clear the problem has been growing.

491 posted on 07/10/2006 11:15:49 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Clinton had no plan to fix the border.

Bush doesn't either--just to do away with it.
492 posted on 07/10/2006 11:17:04 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

---They tried a bit of creative writing to make their point.

They're good at obfuscating the truth. Misquoting Reagan and Hayworth in the same thread.---

I don't think the misquote did any actual harm to the truth. Both are insulting accusations of racism. The effect is the same. In fact, as I indicated, the actual quote offends me more.


493 posted on 07/10/2006 11:17:06 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: rottndog
Bush doesn't either

The facts fly in the face of that statement.

494 posted on 07/10/2006 11:18:58 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: claudiustg
The effect is the same. In fact, as I indicated, the actual quote offends me more.

Truth hurts, I know.

495 posted on 07/10/2006 11:20:01 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: kcvl
Wasn't Hayworth the one that endorsed McCain in 2000 over GW?
496 posted on 07/10/2006 11:22:16 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

---How can you not think that having a controlled entry and departure method does not equate to border control?---

I do see your point, but I am not persuaded that the number of illegals would go down with an expantion of the guest worker program, which already exists by the way.


497 posted on 07/10/2006 11:24:47 PM PDT by claudiustg (You just don't want to help brown people, do you? I mean that in a nice way. :^))
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To: BigSkyFreeper
What's Bush's plan to FIX the BORDER?

He has a plan to make it easier to import cheap labor, but what's his plan to FIX the border?

What legislation has he submitted to massively increase the number of Border Patrol Agents?

What legislation has he submitted to build a physical barrier (fence, wall, or whatever you want to call it)?

What legislation has he submitted to increase punishment and penalties for illegal border crossers?

What legislation has he submitted to crack down on employers of illegals?

Bush doesn't want to FIX the Borders.
498 posted on 07/10/2006 11:25:32 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

---Truth hurts, I know.---

What are you saying here?


499 posted on 07/10/2006 11:26:57 PM PDT by claudiustg (You just don't want to help brown people, do you? I mean that in a nice way. :^))
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To: rottndog
Bush doesn't want to FIX the Borders.

Sure he does.

500 posted on 07/10/2006 11:28:38 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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