[rightwingrevolutionist]

I hope I'm doing this right, I gues I make a comment on what I just wrote. Well Lets hope Republicans aren't going to chicken out, this is the first time and probely the only time we have a chance to overthrow Roe vs. Wade. The only way to make this happen is to write your congressman and tell him you want Roe vs. Wade to be destroyed. "activism is the RIGHT way"

[deport]

Nice first post...... now tell us just how you'd propose to do this.

[Reagan Man]

I'd love to see Roe v Wade overturned, but the country is split on the issue of abortion on demand. Any attempt to knockdown Roe v Wade would be an uphill battle. And besides, there are only three pro-lifers currently on the Supreme Court. Scalia, Reinquest and Thomas.

[Ramius]

Except for the part where republicans don't actually "control" the supreme court... and it's in the hands of the supreme court until further notice...

Abortion is not something within the power of the Republican party to do anything one way or the other.

[Intolerant in NJ]

... a chance to stop abortion...actually what the abortion industry doesn't want the public to know is that invalidating Roe vs. Wade would not end abortion - it would only return the decision to allow abortion or not to each individual state. Since at the time RvW became law about half the states did allow abortion, it's very doubtful that it would be outlawed immediately throughout the country - but it would make this a more local issue which would be more responsive to the wishes of real citizens.......

[stubernx98]

If the Rebublicans do anythng on this subject they will be out of power in 2004. This is not the governments business. let's get government out of our lives, not the opposite. This is the real third rail for the Republicans. They way to fight the abortion problem is through cultural change, not government fiat.

[kylaka]

Never happen, at least not soon. Bush has said, his job re: abortion is to convince 51% of the republic that abortion is wrong. As far as PBA goes he's there already, but as far as first trimester abortions go, he got some work to do.

[Paul Atreides]

"Overthrow." Interesting wording.

[toupsie]

Not my first issue. Taxation, National Security and illegal immigration are mine. Abortion will dealt with through social change not legal. It occured before Roe v. Wade and will if its overturned. Until you change the hearts of 50% of America, abortion will not end as evil as you may feel it is.

[rastus macgill]

Lefty Dems are so stupid.Try to be more convincing when you pose.R v. W is a supreme court descision it can only be overturned by another s court case or Constitutional amendment.The first option is not even pending the second would be difficult to impossible with Rep unanimity much less congress now.Or are you proposing Ashcroft do it under martial law you know when we call it to disenfranchise women and reintroduce African slavery.

[Hunble]

I will not enter into a morality debate about abortion.

However, Roe vs. Wade should be reversed on simple Constitutional grounds. Roe vs. Wade was enacted using a rather twisted interpretation of the 4th Amendment, when the 10th Amendment clearly applied.

This is a State issue, and not a power granted to the Federal Government.

[Physicist]

Sneaking suspicion: if I were a Democrat troll trying to make FR look bad, I'd sign up and make a post like this straight off the bat.

And I'd find a way to cram almost two dozen spelling and grammatical errors into it, too.

[MarkeyD]

Why do anything about it, from a legal standpoint. If we were to do anything in that direction all it would do is provide ammunition for the democRATS and all we need is for them to start changing "I told you so". I think at most, we should focus on education. Take the moral high ground, but don't take it to the courts.

[CarmichaelPatriot]

It seems to me it would take either a new decision by the Supreme Court, or a Constitutional Amendment, neither of which is likely to occur in the foreseeable future. I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for it to happen.

As far as I'm concerned, because of the difficulty of either of the above happening, I don't understand why so many people base their political view on this one issue, which neither party is likely to be able to effect. Why not concentrate on the issue where one party or the other can make a real difference (such as taxes).

[Lancey Howard]

The first thing you need to understand is that "overturning Roe v. Wade" would change nothing. A major part of the scumbag Democrat propaganda is that overturning Roe v. Wade would somehow make abortion illegal. It would, of course, do no such thing.

What it would do is turn the issue over to the individual states. At that point, it would be up to the state governments to regulate and determine the limits (if any) of abortion on demand. Whatever decisions they made would presumably reflect the will of the people of their states.

And that is what scares the scumbag Democrats and their billion-dollar abortion industry so much.

But by itself, "overturning Roe v. Wade" would do absolutely nothing - - Planned Parenthood abortion mills would continue their dirty-work without so much as a nanosecond of interruption.

[WFTR]

First, what you have posted is not a sourced document. Therefore, it should not be posted in "News/Activism." Instead, it should be posted in "General Interest."

Secondly, the Republicans cannot just overturn Roe vs. Wade by a vote in Congress. Congress can pass various resolutions saying that they think RvW was a bad decision. I believe they call it a "sense" of Congress. A few years ago, a similar resolution was passed expressing support for RvW. These resolutions make supporters feel good, but they have no legal substance.

As another poster has already commented, RvW can only be overturned with another Supreme Court decision or by a Constitutional Amendment. Congress could pass a law making abortion a federal crime. If President Bush signed it, there would likely be an immediate challenge that might go quickly to the Supreme Court. At this point, I don't believe we would win in the Supreme Court.

The best thing that the Republicans can do at this point is move the PBA ban through the Senate and let President Bush sign it into law. Personally, I would make this move without too much fanfare. While I'm happy at making a step in the right direction, it is still only a small step. We shouldn't act as if we've accomplished something big. The PBA ban is a wonderful step in the right direction, but it won't stop many abortions.

The other best thing that the Republicans can do is approve President Bush's judicial appointments. President Bush must appoint strong but savy anti-abortion judges to higher positions in the federal courts. These are going to be ugly nomination fights, and we must apply all of the pressure that we can to win them. Sending a check to Suzanne Haik Terrell, the conservative Senate candidate in Louisiana's runoff, would also help in this fight. She would be another consistent pro-life vote if she could win the runoff on December 7.

Those who are saying that we shouldn't work towards outlawing abortion are wrong. Abortion is the killing of a little person, and killing a little person should be illegal. The law won't stop all abortions. I'm not even certain that it would stop half of them. However, our laws against murder of people outside the womb don't stop all of these murders either. Just because the law doesn't stop everything it seeks to punish doesn't mean that it's a bad law.

WFTR
Bill

[Common Tator]

rightwingrevolutionist.

If you practiced doing the Ding, you could put you Bat abilities to use!!

[Fledermaus]

Well, reversal of Roe V. Wade is probably never going to happen. But that doesn't mean some abortion on demand is going to win out either.

I think the super anti-abortion folks would do better to use their votes and resources locally to push for things like true choice at abortion clinics, epsecially if they receive tax dollars. This would include adoption information, health information, the complete description of the evasive medical procedure to be used, etc.

Also, these clinics are not normally under scrutiny as to the qualifications of the workers or the manner of aborted fetus disposal or even cleanliness. These clinics should be inspected regulary and be required to pass those inspections to get their operating license. All states inspect restaurants, why not abortion clinincs?

Most girls under 18 couldn't get their ears peirced or a tatoo legally without parental consent...why not abortion?

Any underage girl seeking an abortion should be forced to identify the father and if he is over 18, arrested and prosecuted for statuatory rape.

Studies linking breast cancer to abortions, especially repeated abortions, should not be censored by the left. A woman's health is at stake and isn't that the pro-abortion (not pro-choice) position?

Sure, I want it all tomorrow too. Most conservatives do. But I'd rather fight a long war winning battle after battle rather than lose the war upfront blowing my wad early!

[VRWCmember]

Will Republicans try and overthrow Roe vs. Wade?

Supreme court decisions could be overturned by a subsequent ruling of the supreme court but not "overthrown". You sound more like a democrat trying to impersonate a distorted perception of a conservative rather than the real deal.

Why not, pro life is the largest issue for Republicans.

Not really. Making permanent the tax relief from last session is probably at the top of the list after homeland security/war on terrorism. The abortion issue is much further down the list for most republicans (even us religious right VRWC types like me).

now that we control the House, Senate, White House, and Supreme Court, we basicly control the country.

Dan Rather, is that you disguising yourself as a rightwingrevolutionist? The only person I've actually heard make a statement as stupid as "republicans will now control the house, senate, white house, and supreme court" was dan blather in the droning coverage by CBS on election night. Until President Bush is able to replace at least two liberal clintonites that currently reside on the supreme court with solid conservative constitutional constructionist justices, there is no way that one could even remotely argue that the republicans "control" the supreme court. It simply isn't true, and really wouldn't be true even then. Of course that never stops liberals from spouting nonsense.

The democrats can still philabuster(wonder if that how you spell it).

Here you kind of gave yourself away with the "philabuster" comment. Is that you Bob Ray Sanders? You still can't get over Phil Gramm's use of the filibuster to stop some of slick's idiocy from being passed by the democrat senate prior to the 1994 GOP revolution, can you?

Nice try, now go back to the DUH site and play with your friends. FReepers are much smarter than you think.

[camle]

"rightwingrevolutionist signed up 2002-11-12."

that ought to tell you something.
besides, the immediate overturning of Roe v. Wade would be political suicide not only for the republicans incumbents, but for the party as a whole.
mini-me said it best - you have to change the hearts and minds before you can challenge the decision.

[cdefreese]

I do not see R v W being overturned. Yes, the partial births will probably be stopped, which is a good first step. But I do hope they will at least limit the powers that 'planned parenthood' has. It is despicable what they get away with.

My daughter is only 3, but I would be outraged if she gets pregnate at 13 by some guy, goes to PP and gets an abortion without my knowledge and without the guy (if an adult) being reported. I truely believe I would tear the building down brick by brick with my bare hands...or at least be arrested trying.