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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 635) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | October 17, 2002 | All of Us

Posted on 10/17/2002 4:17:06 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society

We will not live in fear! [President Bush]

Good morning!! Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

North Korea admits to a secret nuclear weapons program, according to a senior Administration official.

The source said [Assistant Secretary of State] Kelly [while visiting the reclusive Communist Nation on security talks] also raised with North Korea evidence that North Korea may have a uranimum-enrichment program. The program, which the United States believes would only be used to develop a nuclear bomb, began under the Clinton administration, according to the official.

Surprisingly, North Korea confirmed the allegation. FULL STORY HERE.

The ACLU has announced they are looking into whether the Defense Department violated the Posse Comitatus Act by supplying assistance to local police departments in the Washington area looking for the sniper.

Washington area police offered these tips to improve people's safety:

Click here to obtain information being offered by Washington-area police departments on how to help protect yourself from the sniper.

And BS refers to Saddam Hussein as an Iranian dictator in a Truth Alert

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
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To: ohioWfan
Regarding neo-catastrophists, I must explain the position as I understand it.

For many years geology was based on the belief that all landforms and the progress of evolution were in a gradual, uniform step. This was called The Theory of Uniformitarianism. The idea was that processes observable today were also observable in the past. In other words, if one could see silt deposited in a dust storm, it was safe to assume that in the past the same process would deposit silt.

As more evidence becomes available, it is becoming evident that there are times in the earth's history in which catastrophic events shape the surface of the earth. An example of this is the Washington Scablands, in Washington State, which are now believed to have been formed by the breach of a natural dam of a huge, glacial meltwater lake, in which billions of gallons of water swept over the plains west of the Rockies and formed a scoured, bizarre landscape while rushing to the low elevations. A modern example of this would be the devastation around Mt. St. Helens.

The current theory is that the evolution of the earth's surface is caused both by consistent, everyday processes (spring floods, sandsorms, stream erosion, beach deposition) and the odd but devastating catastrophes which shape landforms as well (catastrophic volcanic explosions, breaches of natural dams, comet, meteor, and asteroid hits, etc.).

No one with any scientific credibility believes that the earth was formed solely by catastrophic events.

201 posted on 10/17/2002 2:39:43 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
I don't have the time this evening to absorb and think about what you've said here until tomorrow, Miss Marple, so I'm going to come back in the morning to reply.

Daughter #1 is coming in tonight, and I'm heading to Columbus to the airport to pick her up. My 'baby' sister is getting married on Saturday, and we're heading up to the Youngstown area for the wedding tomorrow.

Thanks for the information you're giving me. I'll give it some serious thought.

202 posted on 10/17/2002 2:53:38 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: MozartLover
Those are absolutely beautiful posies, Mozie. I can't believe I forgot your name in my original hello post.

How is my fellow autumn-lover? Having lots of "normal" days I hope.

(Go Chargers!)

203 posted on 10/17/2002 2:55:18 PM PDT by Josephine
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To: Molly Pitcher
IF this is true.....what does this say about these groups, and Castro's regime?

It's hard to say. I'd look at China as a model that may (or may not) be a step or two ahead of where Cuba could end up, but with obviously some big differences.

Estimates of how quickly Chinese people are turning to faith in Christ are almost mind-boggling: something like 10,000 or more every day. David Aiken has said that by the year 2040 (?), China will be a Christian nation. Over ten years ago there were more Christians than Communist Party members and by now it may very well be twice as many Christians as party members.

How does the Chinese government feel about this? They are panicked. That might be putting it a tad strongly, but they do exhibit a great amount of paranoia over this change. Relatively few government officials beyond the local level recognize that having citizens become Christians actually solves many of the very problems they are trying to overcome. You often hear about how the government is dealing harshly with the Falun Gong cult (and some of it is justified, in my opinion), but when they start lumping Christians in with the Falun Gong people, it reveals a great deal of ignorance.

In Cuba, I would say that it's up to Castro how he will choose to deal with the growing number of evangelical Christians. He may feel threatened by that trend, but I would guess that he's got much bigger worries on his mind than that. It's possible that he might have the opportunity to blame all sorts of social and political problems on these Christians, but given that Catholicism is so strong in Cuba, it doesn't seem like an easy charge to make believably.

I'd like to comment on the Great Commission and totalitarian or otherwise corrupt governments. Our human perspective is so limited that we tend to think that governments can prohibit or restrict the gospel coming into a country. God is so much bigger than that, though, and we'd do well to get God's perspective. The conditions in Cuba may be exactly what is needed to see the gospel really advance there in a healthy way. If Cuba had been a free country all these years, I can't really imagine that we'd be hearing about this kind of revival.

I know the same is true in China. In 1949 in China, after more than a century of relatively open mission work, there were about 1.5 million Christians in that country. By the end of the Cultural Revolution in the late 70s, a ten-year period of incredible suffering and persecution, there were around 20 million Christians in China. Now there are somewhere between 60 and 100 million Christians. Despite China's seemingly oppressive conditions placed on Christianity, the Holy Spirit is growing a church that is going to start flexing its muscles even more than it is. (Chinese Christians are now one of the greatest hopes for the gospel being established in the Middle East.)

Hope this wasn't too wordy for you, Molly.

204 posted on 10/17/2002 3:00:42 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Mr. Mulliner
It's absolutely not too wordy....just thoughtful as I knew it would be....

Am going to "mull" it over Mr. Mulliner, and probably ask a question or 2 more tomorrow.

Will say this...the person who told me this is pretty liberal.

I think he took this development as a sign that Castro's tyranny hasn't been a great as we've been led to believe - you know, the Jeeeeemy approach.

Instead, I think it is as you say the over-arching power of God at work, and perhaps a sign that Castro's grip on power is loosening. Or perhaps, the practice of religion has never been in danger there despite Castro's hold on parts of the culture.

That's what I'd like to know.

Took on a new activity today at a nearby Lutheran church - we are UCC - joined a group there putting together Braille Bibles for overseas.

The group works on several specific chapters. Today it was Chapter I, Exodus.

205 posted on 10/17/2002 3:10:57 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Molly Pitcher; Miss Marple; kayak; lysie; Chairman_December_19th_Society
Anyone heard anything from or about Gulfcoast 6??
206 posted on 10/17/2002 3:15:18 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
Not that I know of....been gone most of the day, tho. Sure hope he's okay!
207 posted on 10/17/2002 3:17:56 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Josephine; Molly Pitcher; Guenevere; Neets; kayak; *ATRW
Josie: A surprising number of "normal" days have come my way recently.:) I'll take 'em.

All: The latest from girlchild:

"....I saw the very first sign of autumn in Avignon---there were colored leaves floating on the surface of the clear water in the fountain at Place Louis Pasteur. A nice thing to see on my way to school..........

"I can't believe it already reached under freezing in GB! I'm still hot ALL the time! My host mother told me at dinner today that it only snowed once all last winter in Avignon. (ed. note: how sad!)

Speaking of dinner, we had breasts of lapin (rabbit) for dinner one night. I didn't even know what it was at first; it looked like a chicken breast, but it did not taste like chicken. I didn't really DISlike it, but because I was so unaccustomed to the unique flavor, it did not become my instant new favorite.

......Tomorrow I have the day off from classes, so assuming I can get my rear end out of bed at a decent hour (ed. note: not likely), I'm going to go to the library and hopefully get a good chunk of research done for my 3 upcoming presentations. And mid-term exams are next week!! SO I'll be studying a lot this weekend. On Saturday, however, I have an all day Archeologie excursion (with the prof. and class) to Vaison Romaine, which is southeast of here, but not very far.

That's it for now. Send some good vibes my way on Tues., Wed., and Thurs.---exam days.

Love you!

Emily"

She opened her letter with the usual college student rant of being tired, pulling all-nighters, studying too much, putting up with crabby professors, etc. etc. etc., but you've all heard (or said) that stuff enough times & didn't need to hear it again IMHO.:)

208 posted on 10/17/2002 3:18:56 PM PDT by MozartLover
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To: Dog
last g6 post about this time of day, Oct. 14.....
209 posted on 10/17/2002 3:18:58 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: MozartLover
LOL! Lots of good stuff after the student rants....

I be the time is just flying for her, don't you think...Mom??

How wonderful to enjoy her experience thru her eyes, vicariously, and with love and pride and tenderness!

210 posted on 10/17/2002 3:22:27 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Molly Pitcher
Yes, it is wonderful.

Today I ordered some books from her Amazon.com wish list,to be sent to her in France..........and also some clothes from Delia's, her favorite on-line shopping place...........and I sent her a Halloween card with 50 Euros...........

At times I miss her a lot, but this experience is doing her so much good.........

211 posted on 10/17/2002 3:25:15 PM PDT by MozartLover
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To: Dog
You watching Hume? Discussing N. Korea...Clinton made a deal (Thank you Bill!!)....and we kept our end ...but they better come clean now on what they/ve done.

Stop bribing them to behave.No more reactors, fuel oil, etc.

Economic sanctions, clear warnings of political consequences.

Containment policy will have to be put in place.

This was a foreign affairs expert named Sokolowski, interviewed by Brit.

212 posted on 10/17/2002 3:28:26 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Molly Pitcher
No emails from him or his daughter to me .....so that is good news ..
213 posted on 10/17/2002 3:29:20 PM PDT by Dog
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To: MozartLover
At times I miss her a lot, but this experience is doing her so much good.........

Exactly!This is the key as they become independent: appreciating their growth and new-found maturity, even as it seems to shrink our time and influence with them.

It's better to focus on the first, rather than the latter.

It may sound like a paradox, but that gives us a chance to grow too!

214 posted on 10/17/2002 3:34:11 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Dog
Yes, Jim. Thanks. That is the way to look at it!
215 posted on 10/17/2002 3:34:48 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Molly Pitcher
Molly ....Clinton really put this country in great peril.....for years to come...

Sometimes I think he planted these time bombs on purpose.. around the world to blow up for the next 20 years..

Notice no Clinton flacks coming out today denying the story....dirty rotten ....@$%$@*&%'s

216 posted on 10/17/2002 3:34:52 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
Maybe they need to catch their breath to appear tomorrow! What snakes!

He really is the most despicable piece of trash.To think he ever sat in the WH, and there are still too many people who support him!!!

There is one thing to hang to tho....some people's eyes are being opened, and Hillary will be the one who pays the price.

Much more of this, and she can kiss her ambitions goodbye!

217 posted on 10/17/2002 3:43:44 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Dog
Listen to Mara Liason....LOL...

Jeff Birbaum is an idiot..

218 posted on 10/17/2002 3:44:17 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Molly Pitcher
While we are on the Clinton subject...

I have always thought that all our troubles with Europe today stem from our bombing Yugoslavia(sp).....

219 posted on 10/17/2002 3:46:35 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
North Korea has missiles pointed at us and Jeff Birbaum ...wants us to continue feeding their people.

These people are going to get us all killed they keep it up..

220 posted on 10/17/2002 3:50:37 PM PDT by Dog
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