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Smart Case, August 3, 2002
08/03/02 | Jolly Green

Posted on 08/02/2002 10:49:55 PM PDT by Jolly Green

Time Line
04/01/01 Sunday Ricci burglarizes a Smart neighbor's home taking various items.
06/05/01 Tuesday Ricci steals items from the Smart home while he is employed there as a handyman. Ricci is charged in July of 2002 of 1 count of theft related to the Smart incident.
05/30/02 Thursday ~ Ricci returns to pick up his Jeep at the auto repair shop before the shop has a chance to fully fix it He tells the repairman that it needed for an emergency.
06/04/02 Tuesday ~ Ricci is at work from about 9am to 5:30pm
~ Ricci claims he spends the evening with friends
06/05/02 Wednesday ~ 1:05am - 2 cars are spotted on the SLC Shriner's Hospital Parking Lot by a hospital security guard, two blocks from the Smart residence
~ 1:30am (approx) - Elizabeth is kidnapped from her home
~ 1:30am - Ricci claims to be in bed asleep with his with wife.
~ Ricci is scheduled to be off work all day today.
~ 7:21am - Rachel/Amber alert is issued and national media is involved.
~ 8:30am - Ricci and his neighbor talk about the kidnapping of Elizabeth, Ricci seems to know too much information about it.
~ Sometime during this day Ricci is visited by police in regards to Elizabeth's kidnapping as reported by Angela Ricci (Richard A. Ricci's Wife which is an ex-convict herself)
~ Ricci is seen by his neighbor digging a hole by his (Ricci's) trailer early in the morning. (heard the neighbor say this on TV)
06/06/02 Thursday ~ Ricci is scheduled to work from 9am to 5:30pm today, but instead works from 10:30am to 7:00pm
~ Police talk to Ricci this day about the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping. (The media is reporting this, so it could be wrong)
06/08/02 Saturday ~ Ricci returns the Jeep to the repair shop to get it fixed. The Jeep is muddy and the repair shop owner sees Ricci remove seat covers from the back of the jeep and place them into a plastic garbage bag that already contains other stuff in it. Also the repair shop owner said a muddy post hole digger was in the back of the Jeep, Ricci removes this also. Ricci has a man waiting across the street to give him a ride. Ricci takes the plastic bag and contents along with the post hole digger with him. Also there is 500 to 1000 extra miles on the Jeep since Ricci picked it up on May 30th, 2002.
06/14/02 Friday ~ Ricci is taken into custody for a parole violation, this being drinking while on parole and association with other ex-cons.
07/11/02 Thursday Formal charges are filed against Ricci (2 counts of theft & 1 count of burglary) on the theft & burglary of the Smart neighbors home which occurred in April 2001, and 1 more count of theft for stealing from the Smart home on June 6th, 2001.
Special thanks to Brigette for starting this timeline.


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To: varina davis
...do you think it's possible the alleged kidnapper is known to the family and they think he and Liz are holed up somewhere in the state (possibly even in the community)?

If he disappeared and they can't locate him he might be dead.

81 posted on 08/03/2002 8:16:37 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: sandude
I just don't get in Varina, what is so interesting?

Everything here is interesting, sandude. Otherwise, I'd be reading a good book.

82 posted on 08/03/2002 8:17:35 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
You've been around long enough to know. JimRob does not allow insults on News threads, etc., but many of us have endured them on Chat.

Rhetoric is not being a valuable contributor, in my estimation. If there is any valid proof, then I'm all ears.

83 posted on 08/03/2002 8:17:42 PM PDT by lakey
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To: varina davis; lakey
Sandude doesn't have any bookmarks.
84 posted on 08/03/2002 8:18:09 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Sherlock
Sandude doesn't have any bookmarks.

Neither do I. No flag, either. I'm just one of those old time conservatives who believes in preserving personal identity (on principle) as much as possible -- no easy task in the 21st Century.

85 posted on 08/03/2002 8:21:54 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: lakey
You've been around long enough to know. JimRob does not allow insults on News threads, etc., but many of us have endured them on Chat. Rhetoric is not being a valuable contributor, in my estimation. If there is any valid proof, then I'm all ears.

My interpretation of what Jengaio posted to you was her attempt to get clarification on your position. I didn't see any insult there. Gauging emotion is difficult for all of us when we can't see or hear the person.

86 posted on 08/03/2002 8:23:00 PM PDT by sandude
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To: varina davis
I'm just one of those old time conservatives who believes in preserving personal identity (on principle) as much as possible -- no easy task in the 21st Century.

We agree on this!

87 posted on 08/03/2002 8:24:03 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Sherlock
Sandude doesn't have any bookmarks.

That's true. I don't put my pants on backwards either. I hope that is OK. Just kidding.

89 posted on 08/03/2002 8:26:38 PM PDT by sandude
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To: jengaio
Plus, just as an aside, what is basis for the snobbery on FR wherein people look down on those who have more recently joined the forum? I mean really, what is the reasoning?

Jen, I've been a member longer than most of the posters on this thread and I honestly do not know what these people are talking about. From my time at FreeRepublic a disruptor is usually a liberal who joins just so that they can disrupt a debate on a conservative issue. Often times they are exposed by a member who notices that they have only joined that day or just recently. It certainly doesn't apply to you. Please keep posting and ignore the snobbery.

90 posted on 08/03/2002 8:32:06 PM PDT by sandude
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To: jengaio
With all the nasty back and forth on here, I ask that and you call me a disruptor??? What was I disrupting?

jen, I did not call you a disruptor. I did not call you anything. I did reply to your questions in the post of reference.

91 posted on 08/03/2002 8:33:52 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: jengaio
You're positing a mentally challenged perp acting alone? Then if those involved in tracking him down and keeping him happy to protect E, what's up with all the action on the Ricci & friends?

No, he didn't act alone. It's not by chance he happened to have the same license plate number as Edmunds, a number that was not registered with the Utah DMV for any car by the way. Along with mentally challenged he probably has a real bad drug habit too that puts him in the company of losers like Edmunds and Ricci. Ricci didn't run the cover for his Jeep of taking it in the shop then hiding it somewhere from May 30 till he finished taking care of business that included digging in white mud in a remote area with bugs and pine needles because he was taking a group of cub scouts on a campout. And somebody met this scumbag in the Honda in the Shriner's Hospital parking lot before he drove up in the Smart neighborhood on the morning of Jun 5.

92 posted on 08/03/2002 8:35:48 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: jengaio
One more time. What about Ricci/Remington? They didn't do it!! Remington, according to his attorney, has been in jail since Novermber 2001.

I have posted many times on Ricci & the jeep. Nobody has proved one #$%!^* thing about the jeep! The police & media have used Ricci as a distraction, because they have no one else. Smarts are obviously using him to keep a lid on who really committed the kidnapping, fearing for Elizabeth's safety, for she could still be alive.

Go back & listen to their comments to the kidnapper - like, as another freeper said, talking to a child. They know who it is!

Disruptors want to get off the track of what is currently being posted, spinning back to old issues that have been cussed & discussed.

cookiedough is new but she is open to what is being said, offering some common sense opinions.

If YOU aren't a disruptor, I apologize, sincerely.

93 posted on 08/03/2002 8:39:36 PM PDT by lakey
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To: jengaio
...mentally challenged...

This is a theory some people have because of the way Mrs. Smart addressed the possible kidnapper early in the case and a couple times since. However, she used other approaches too to cover all the bases and as another poster pointed out, these appeals are often written for the family by the FBI. From what the milkman said this guy seemed to be kind of a hothead but this guy being mentally challenged is the speculation of some people and one that I don't share.

I think the Smarts were pretty much left out of the loop of the investigation until they brought Boylan in. I think they know more now but I still don't know that they know the identity of the person that came in the house. And I think it's possible the police have self serving reasons for protecting the ID of the kidnapper rather than because they think it might help save Elizabeth.

95 posted on 08/03/2002 8:51:11 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: varina davis
Getting back to what we were talking about, your post #71, I positively believe Ed Smart is using Ricci to throw the kidnapper into feeling safer.

Heaven knows where he & Elizabeth are. He'd have to have money wherever they are.

One thing, I feel better now about Ed's strange t.v. appearances, the letter, fax, e-mail, etc.

96 posted on 08/03/2002 8:53:56 PM PDT by lakey
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To: lakey
I have posted many times on Ricci & the jeep. Nobody has proved one #$%!^* thing about the jeep! The police & media have used Ricci as a distraction, because they have no one else. Smarts are obviously using him to keep a lid on who really committed the kidnapping, fearing for Elizabeth's safety, for she could still be alive.

Go back & listen to their comments to the kidnapper - like, as another freeper said, talking to a child. They know who it is!

While it's possible that your conclusions here are on the mark, I will respectfully disagree. I think if LE knew that Ricci was not involved they would make an announcement clearing him. If his lawyer felt that Rick had answered all of LE's questions satisfactorily then he would be holding news conferences blasting the police for not exonerating his client. For these reasons I believe that LE still believes that Ricci was somehow involved in this. Just because we can't prove anything about the Jeep doesn't mean it is off the hook. As far as I know it is still in the possession of LE. Why would they hang on to it if they weren't still suspicious? I may be giving LE too much credit but until they announce that Rick is no longer of interest to them in this case then I'm going to keep on suspecting him as having involvement.

The details that have come to light in the last few days also point to a possible Ricci connection. MK recognized the voice of the perp. This is a significant revelation which may have been leaked by the Smarts without LE's blessing. It doesn't mean that voice was Rick's but it doesn't clear him either. It does clear many other people. It is tough to piece this thing together when we are missing so many of the puzzle parts. Your speculation is valuable as is my humble criticism of it. Let's hope that more information will come forth and that this case can have a happy resolution.

97 posted on 08/03/2002 8:59:10 PM PDT by sandude
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To: lakey
Heaven knows where he & Elizabeth are. He'd have to have money wherever they are.

He could be a person of means, but maybe a loner? Maybe someone who has watched her at church or other venues, even making an overture to her that no one (she and her family) regarded at the time as being serious? I don't think he's very old, not older than 35 or 40. Maybe younger if this is not a true abduction.

I would hope LE is (has) checked all such sources.

98 posted on 08/03/2002 9:02:24 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
LE didn't have a word to say about Ricci for weeks. Only at his court appearance to plead guilty or not guilty did anyone bring up his being a suspect. (What happened to the bank robbery charge?)

This is the kind of back & forth discussion we need. Thank you.

99 posted on 08/03/2002 9:05:25 PM PDT by lakey
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To: jengaio
I appreciate that and it pains me to say... "I'm outta here." Too much pointless nasty sniping at one another.

Please reconsider Jen, your input has been thoughtful and helpful. Please don't let someone else's insecurity drive you away. If you'd like I will develop a software program that will add an 'f' to lakey's name anytime it appears on your computer. Now lakey, if you are reading this I hope that you will learn from this incident. Your rudeness to Jen was uncalled for.

100 posted on 08/03/2002 9:06:02 PM PDT by sandude
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