Freeoples Thread 294

[Mo1]

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Thread 294

[Canadian Outrage]

You are so right on there Rowdee. Most Conservatives now unfortunately are these bifurcated creatures. I think most Conservatives who call themselves such are just fiscal conservatives. In other words they are not whole conservatives. Those of us who are both fiscally and morally conservative are called the right wing nuts. However, in my books, you must be both to be a whole Conservative. And that is EXACTLY what is ailing the Republican party. Bastardization is the right word for sure. Lynn

[Mo1]

We wouldn't have to listen at them any more. LOL

Ya wanna bet .. Jesse Jackass is still around .. and long as there are liberals in this country .. that fact is .. we will have to deal with them ..

[Rowdee]

I'm sorry if I left the impression that I felt you were pro abortion....I certainly didn't believe that and your reinforcing it just now convinces me I was correct in my initial assessment.

[Mo1]

the liberal just mashed my buttons yesterday morning, and that is a very bad idea at 5:30 AM!

did yatellhimtobiteyourass ??.. fofl

[ValerieUSA]

*whining* I have never watched West Wing - I don't want to start now. It's sounds boring - I'll bet 3/4 of the people who tune in, tune out before it's halfway through.

[Rowdee]

Oh, Lynn....it's not just that word....it seems like the whole damn language is under attack....anywhere from the simplest 'is' to the more complicated 'conservative'! Sheet!

And, today we can read of 4th graders and oral sex because a bunch of Senators essentially said its ok--after all, if the most powerful man in the whole world can do it and get away with it, why can't little kids! Pretty pathetic!

[Canadian Outrage]

Yeah your right, we still have the jackass to deal with. I do think he is losing some of his "power" with Corporate America tho. Let's hope so.

[Mo1]

Until public opinion crysatalizes to at least 30/70 or 70/30 anyone who seems to be ready to actually do anything is doomed

Sad ... but true

[Canadian Outrage]

The game of semantics is pretty much how the liberals operate in everything right! Abortion is a great example. Us that are pro-life are called anti-choice. But they they sure don't call themselves pro-death which is what they are. And so it goes!

[catpuppy]

it seems like the whole damn language is under attack

Couldn't agree more. One word that has become so popular post 9-11 is "hero." Today the media managed to refer to every sailor on the Roosevelt as a "hero." As retired military, I appreciate the media giving favorable coverage to our military. But if every person there doing a job is a "hero," what was Sgt York? What was Audie Murphy? What shall we call the men and women who, in future desperate situations, put it all on the line without regard to their personal safety?

[Mo1]

I'm sorry if I left the impression that I felt you were pro abortion

It's ok .. I just wanted to make sure that even though I don't think Keyes is the right person to be President it doesn't mean that I don't like are agree with what he says ..

well most of what he says .. lol

[ValerieUSA]

The Republican Party is fully 70% against abortion. Swerve listens to, believes and repeats propaganda that appeals to his own twist. When I was a delegate to a state convention in 1992 there were just a handful of pro-choicers in attandance, and they were mostly old. The younger Republicans were decidedly pro-life, especially the women! Of course the media does NOT report this in convention coverage. I was shocked to read what the Seattle papers were reporting - it's like they were sending in the articles from their own little biased planet and not from the actual convention center. You have to be there to find out.

[Canadian Outrage]

catpuppy I'm really sick of the word "hero" also. Everybody, no matter what they do, rescue a dog, cat, person, etc. anything - is a hero. Nobody today even knows what a REAL HERO is.

[Servant of the Nine]

And that is EXACTLY what is ailing the Republican party. Bastardization is the right word for sure.

Unfortunately Lynn, Republicans like Barry Goldwater were just the ones you are clalling bastards. He was the great libertarian who said none of these things were the governments business. It was only after Reagan sold the soul of the party to the Religious Fundamentalists that those became Republican issues.

So9

[Jaidyn]

I think I was a liberal in a republican household but grew out of it when I got a job. I was one of ten kids who grew up in a poor neighborhood. Mom never worked outside the home but all of us always had jobs of sorts if we wanted anything. I bought Mom and Dad their first new living room suit the year I graduated. Dad would never take a dime he didn't earn. When he got laid off, he and a neighbor, would take an old dump truck and clean sewage from outhouses and septic tanks. He didn't believe in unemployment. Even as poor as we were, he saved a little each week and retired a somewhat wealthy person. Dad had to quit school at 16 to work the farm. Later, he was in WWll. By the time he was 21, he had five kids but managed to study Latin, Shakespear, Russian and was a prolific writer. When he wrote, you lived his words. He is 75 now but is still an avid reader and involved in politics. We chat all the time. Most of my siblings went on to college but I didn't and I was considered the brains of the family. I think I disappointed them but when I got the political bug, he was just as proud as though I got my masters in English Lit! How could I be anything BUT a conservative?

[Canadian Outrage]

I think your right Val but when it actually comes to getting elected or re-elected, then the wavering, finger to the wind thing starts!. It is not only sufficient, IMO to say your pro-life but you must demonstrate it also REGARDLESS of the consequences. What do you think??

[Mo1]

Oh, Lynn....it's not just that word....it seems like the whole damn language is under attack....anywhere from the simplest 'is' to the more complicated 'conservative'! Sheet!

Because we had LAWYERS in the White House the last 8 years ..

Give a few lawyers a chance .. they can twist any words around .. which is what they are doing with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights

AND that is a general statement about lawyers .. NOT ALL LAWYERS ARE BAD PEOPLE ..

Boy I can get myself in trouble if I'm not careful .. lol

[Rowdee]

You are correct, pup. And how can guys who are paid a fortune to play a game they'd frankly play for nothing if given the choice between a real job and playing the game...be called heros?

I'm frankly sick of these news readers and talking heads--and yes, even politicians who try to tell us that spending less than anticipated is a cut!

[Canadian Outrage]

Servant, there is nothing wrong with being funamentally right. ( Now you agree with me don't you?)

[sweetliberty]

"I was raised in a Democrat household by parents who thought FDR was the second coming"

It's funny, most people talk about what party their parents and extended families were and how that influenced them. I don't recall ever once hearing mentioned in my family if they were Democrat or Republican, but there was a lot of talk on current events and I had no confusion about who they liked and didn't like. (My dad and grandpa, and uncles all talked to the tv too!). They liked Eisenhower and Nixon and had no use at all for JFK. Well, that was most of my family. My mother thought the sun rose and set on Jackie. She had less sway on me than any other close family member though, at least in a direct sense.. I rebeled against her most of my life, until she died when I was 21. If she thought something was good, then I was as likely as not to take the exact opposite point of view. And she was moving more towards the liberal mentality in the last few years of her life.

But at that time, patriotism was a deeply ingrained virtue. I learned at an early age about respect for the flag and flag etiquette was part of a child's basic education. When the president came on, everybody watched Not that you had much of a choice then if the tv was on, since it would always be on every channel and a patriotic song was a part of every school music program. There was never any question about whether it was appropriate or not and if talk about God or country offended anybody, that was their problem. And it seems that life was infinitely more simple.