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1 posted on 06/08/2026 12:24:40 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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2 posted on 06/08/2026 12:31:15 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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I think it was William Proxmire who state โ€œif you think health care is expensive now, just wait until it's freeโ€

One of the most prescient and forward looking statements in American political history.

W are now learning that the biggest cost in free healthcare is the loss of doctors and competent health care providers.

The day of the Doctor - Patient relationship is long gone and effective healthcare is fading into the past.

The much vaunted Brit, Cuban and Canadian NHS systems that were touted by liberals as models for the US to emulate are melting down into dysfunction.

3 posted on 06/08/2026 12:31:19 PM PDT by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead)
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To: Republican Wildcat; Jim Noble

Is this what democRATs have in mind for our healthcare system in the USA?


4 posted on 06/08/2026 12:31:27 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Sometimes Healthcare costs an arm and a leg. This time it was a leg. Our hospital is dominated by drug addicts taking up all the beds. My wife had a serious heart problem and we waited hours before somebody died or was released.


8 posted on 06/08/2026 12:37:33 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Call my personal secretary, Jennie, at 867-5309.)
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Government provided healthcare is like a Chinese restaurant:

You can cover every body.
You can cover everything.
You can have inexpensive healthcare.

You can only pick two of those three.


10 posted on 06/08/2026 12:40:46 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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My Canadian mother-in-law just gave up on getting a hip.


11 posted on 06/08/2026 12:42:56 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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“A surgeon at Winnipegโ€™s Health Sciences Centre removed dead tissue from her knee, then sent her to Concordia Hospital with the plan to bring her back that same day so a specialist could stitch the wound (CBC News). She was never brought back.”

O.K, I’ll ask, Why was a different specialist needed to stitch the wound? It can’t be because the surgeon was unqualified. It must be due to some sort of rule that breaks down what procedures may be performed under certain licenses that every procedure requires multiple specialists.

Next question, Why didn’t the patient try to find alternate transportation? She probably had a some idea of how likely it was that the plans to bring her back to the original hospital might go tails up.

The same type of situation could happen in the U.S. only difference is that a non-Medicaid patient here would not think any of it was “free”.


14 posted on 06/08/2026 1:05:20 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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โ€œ๐˜Œ๐˜ช๐˜จ๐˜ฉ๐˜ต ๐˜ฅ๐˜ข๐˜บ๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜Š๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ข. ๐˜•๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜Š๐˜ถ๐˜ฃ๐˜ข, ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜”๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ณ, ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ง๐˜ข๐˜ณ-๐˜ง๐˜ญ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ-๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜บ. ๐˜•๐˜ฐ, ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ, ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ, ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜Š๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ข.

I disagree with the premise of the quote. Canada long ago turned into a third-world Hellhole when it comes to healthcare. This is just one more example.

15 posted on 06/08/2026 1:08:41 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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I guess she was lucky they didnโ€™t try to suicide her! Holy crap.


16 posted on 06/08/2026 1:17:22 PM PDT by vpintheak (The left is violence.)
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This is what gov't healthcare does because NO ONE is responsible.

NUKE UTTERLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL FEDERAL GOV'T HEALTHCARE AKA DEATH PROTOCOL!!!

The best and least costly healthcare in the world is DIRECTLY between the doctor and the patient!!!

17 posted on 06/08/2026 1:19:56 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA "by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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“By the time a bed opened, the wound had rotted past saving.”

Something does not make sense.

The article reads she had an open surgical wound for eight days. Was the wound not tended to that whole time? No debridement, no cleaning, no antibiotics? Even without getting stitches all of the above should have been done. If the infection was so deep that normal wound care was not effective stitching the wound would not have prevented infection. My guess is that the patient was diabetic which made it more difficult for the wound to heal.

The article wants you to conclude she died because of the long wait. Given the information I doubt stitching the wound the same day would have made any difference and probably would have made things worse. You want to make sure a infection that is not just on the surface can drain.
The article does not read what she had done (At least the excerpt posted) but I would guess it was a knee replacement. That surgery is not as simple and benign as surgeons and hospitals would have you believe.

There is nothing “free” about Canadian health care and there are good reasons why Canadians cross the border to get healthcare in the U.S. but what happened to Milburn could have happened in a U.S. hospital given the high rate of post surgical infections.


18 posted on 06/08/2026 1:22:59 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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Did they offer her a nice assisted suicide deluxe package since is now an invalid eh?


22 posted on 06/08/2026 2:00:50 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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One of the best decisions I made was serving in the Navy. The VA clinic and hospital treat me excellently. My VA hospital is in Madison, Wisconsin.


23 posted on 06/08/2026 2:01:04 PM PDT by roving
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I personally know three people who had amputations due to infection after knee surgery. Family member, Church friend, acquaintance.


25 posted on 06/08/2026 2:17:04 PM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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IMO the biggest drawback of Canada's health care system is the waiting lists. A six month wait to see a cancer specialist. A three month wait to see a heart surgeon. A wait of almost a year for a hip replacement. There's not a country on earth that has a health care system that's even close to perfect.

A few years back my 35 year old niece developed shortness of breath. Her doctor (in a hospital in a medium sized town) didn't seem particularly concerned. We sought a second opinion from a senior cardiologist at a major Boston hospital. Long story short: she was taken to Boston the next day and a heart procedure was attempted the next day. It failed because the damage was too far advanced. The next day she was having open heart surgery.

What might have happened to her under Canada's system?

27 posted on 06/08/2026 2:23:36 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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Canada IS a third-world country!


29 posted on 06/08/2026 2:32:39 PM PDT by Fresh Wind
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30 posted on 06/08/2026 2:42:40 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Asking for a friend in Canada....

I have a friend in Ontario who was told a few years ago that he should get knee replacement surgery (both knees). He now recognizes that the long wait means that he should look south of the border to get it done. Does anyone have strong recommendations on where he should go to get it done and what sort of cost is he looking at? I’m assuming the budget on cost is likely in the $50,000 range, no?


33 posted on 06/08/2026 3:19:52 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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Good thing she didnโ€™t have ear surgery, they wouldโ€™ve decapitated her. She canโ€™t sue, she doesnโ€™t have a leg to stand on.


40 posted on 06/08/2026 5:54:44 PM PDT by drypowder
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Isnโ€™t free wonderful? Some years back, I heard that there were more MRI machines in the Dallas Fort Worth metromess than there was in Canada.


43 posted on 06/08/2026 6:34:00 PM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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