The shot that killed Charlie Kirk was probably a high miss because of the high to low angle.
Posted on 09/14/2025 12:25:26 PM PDT by MisterMagic
There are a lot of people talking about not seeing Tyler Robinson leaving the rooftop with the rifle. But I don't see anyone asking if he could even made the shot. I'm no expert, but taking a single shot and killing your target at 200 yards requires more than a little experience shooting a gun. At that range the bullet is going to be affected by wind (if there was any), by a drop of several inches (or more) due to gravity, and shooting from a higher elevation is going to require compensation.
Where did Tyler Robinson learn enough to shoot at that distance?
His “friends” said he bragged all the time about what a great shot he was.
I have some experience in that regard.
.30-06 is way flatter shooting than that at the range you’re talking about. From 100 yards to 150 the drop would be considered nil. Maybe an inch or so, in other words insignificant so far as the vast majority of shooters are concerned.
I don’t wish to get sucked into all the speculation, but so far as Tyler Robinson was concerned he hit what he was aiming at, unfortunately.
I measured the shot on Google earth and it is not 200 yeards.
Next. a 200 yard shot is not difficult, especially if you are prone and have a decent rifle.
It also seems the assassin has been a shooter for some time. Also, so many people wet themselves over the 7.62 NATO round but the venerable 30-06 is still one of the best rounds developed.
I agree.
Yes....amen!!
He built a rifle from a kit his father gave him. He was an experienced gun handler. He grew up around guns,
I haven’t watched the video. But from what I’ve read, he was shot in the neck. With normal .30/06 hunting loads from say, 150 grains up, a human neck isn’t thick enough to absorb most of the energy. A lightweight thin jacketed “varmint” style loading at higher velocity will produce more wound trauma in soft tissue. As I said, i haven’t watched the video, but only read about it. And we haven’t been told anything about the ammunition used, if it was military ammunition it would do less tissue damage, of course.
Oh please. Don’t be ridiculous.
Well, in the middle ‘60’s, we shot at 42 inch bullseyes at 1000 yards and hit them. This was with a slightly accurized M-14 and 7.62 ball ammo. Our rifle team was mostly a bunch of draftees and one guy from NYC had never even SEEN a real firearm before the Army. On division match day, he shot the highest score. Army rifle training was, in my opinion, lousy.
I could already shoot when I enlisted.
I am pushing 80 years old. I could make that 137 yard shot with my M1A (Civilian M-14) today from the standing position. Of course, I HAVE kept in practice.
In my somewhat-expert opinion, anybody aware of basic rifle marksmanship skills could make that shot, providing that the rifle was correctly zeroed.
He killed him period. The only thing in question is did he have help.
At that range both easy shots for a marginally competent shooter. Crook's shot was good but Trump turned his head. I would assume that Trump was wearing armored vesting beneath his suit and thus he went for a head shot. The evil bastard that killed Charlie Kirk did the same. I suspect he was trying for a head shot and aimed a few inches low and thus hit his throat. Still it was a good shot from that evil man.
With an M1-Garand with no scope, I can make a sure head shot at 100 yards and a center of mass shot at 400 yards. It is not difficult for an experienced shooter. This guy was a deer hunter and well withing his skills.
Wearing black is an antifa hallmark. I’m quite sure we will soon learn that he was steeped in that violent, barbaric ideology.
ditto that.
I’ve seen this kind of crap for days now.
“Charlie’s still alive.”
“He faked his death.”
“It was the JOOS!”
“Professional hit by the deep state.”
and on, and on.
I taught my son to shoot when he was three. BB gun, .22 LR at four, AR15 at 5, he passed the NRA range course (the one onsite in NoVA) when he was 6-1/2 years old, written test AND range safety. Youngest kid on record so far as I know.
A year later, he was punching holes in quarters at 200 yards from a rest with a scoped AR15.
The drop for an M1 round, .30-06 at 200 yds is about 5 inches.
The following table details the ballistic trajectory of the .30-06 Springfield cartridge, specifically comparing it to the .30 M1 and .30 M2 rounds, including range, angle of elevation, time of flight, maximum ordinate, and angle of fall at various distances.
Range, yards
100
200
300
400
500
600
700
800
900
1000
.30-06
2.6
5.2
8.3
11.7
15.8
20.7
26.3
32.4
39.8
48.3
M1
2.7
5.4
8.4
11.8
15.9
20.3
25.3
30.7
36.8
43.5
M2
2.4
5.1
8.1
11.5
15.5
19.6
26.0
1.27
40.2
49.3
M2 AP
0.12
0.24
0.38
0.53
0.70
0.88
1.07
1.35
1.50
1.75
This data provides a comparison of the .30-06 Springfield’s ballistic performance against the .30 M1 and .30 M2 cartridges, which were developed from the .30-06. The table includes the angle of elevation, time of flight, maximum ordinate, and angle of fall for each range.
sorry for the non-table alignment, after over twenty years here you’d figure I’d know how to post graphics, but it requires remembering some obscure bit of information I rarely use.
Best guess is the guy WAS holding center of mass but didn’t know how to work COSINE functions for shooting up/downhill so the round went high.
Bottom line, ANYBODY with at least monocular vision, given a few minutes’ instruction (or less), a rifle and a torso target could make that shot first time.
I qualified as a rifle expert in Marine Corps boot camp. We shot 200, 300 and 500 meters with iron sights. 200 yards is nothing.
I’m 71, have a 30. 6 and aiming at mass at 200 yards is a cake walk. I’m also a woman. I think the kid actually missed his target and accidentally shot Charlie in the neck.
“Into and out “
I have only seen the video with the indication of a wound on the left side of his neck ...
are you saying there was an exit wound?
NOT a miracle shot. In fact, he probably missed a head shot.
That caliber, in a good bolt-action rifle, with a decent scope, laying prone?
Nothing remarkable about that shot.
What is remarkable to me is, why were there no surveillance drones in the air? And, who helped him?
His father. There are pictures of him at the range with his dad
I retired 22 years ago, so have no idea what weapons they use now. I'm assuming they've upgraded from revolvers though. I could have purchased and carried weapons on my badge, but I never wanted a weapon. I was a divorced mother of two sons, and never wanted to put that kind of temptation in front of my kids, especially since I had to be gone at least 8 hours each day, and sometimes 16. It wasn't worth my while to buy a gun safe, since owning a weapon wasn't anything I was interested in anyway. A large number of the men I worked with were hunters, and some carried their personal weapons to work each day, which they would have to unload and leave at the arsenal before being allowed inside. Their weapons sat in the arsenal as long as they were inside, and they had to pick them up on the way home. One day an officer I worked with, forgot to remove his personal shotgun from the cab of his truck when he parked on State property. A Lieutenant noticed it, and he was relieved from his job, and sent home to get rid of the rifle. He got written up for the incident, but fortunately didn't lose his job.
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