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Any thoughts on these new turbo engines vs. say a V6 nonturbo? Some people are saying these 4 cylinder Turbo engines are essentially "disposable" engines. The Nissan guy told me not to get the 4 cylinder "eco boost" (turbo) Ford Ranger. It won't get more than 120,000 miles. He said his Frontier has a V6 with 310 horsepower and will last much longer.
1 posted on 07/11/2025 8:05:59 AM PDT by vespa300
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Epstein's fault.
2 posted on 07/11/2025 8:07:40 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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Can’t speak to the 4 cylinder but I had a 2006 Frontier that died at 150K from multiple issues.


3 posted on 07/11/2025 8:07:55 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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“Ford Motor Company (Ford) is recalling certain 2021-2023 Bronco, Explorer, Lincoln Aviator, F-250 SD, F-350 SD, F-450 SD, F-550 SD, 2021-2022 Lincoln Navigator, Mustang, F-150, and 2022 Expedition vehicles. The low-pressure fuel pump may fail, which can result in an engine stall while driving.”


6 posted on 07/11/2025 8:13:22 AM PDT by PsyCon
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Are the fuel pumps made in Southwest China?


8 posted on 07/11/2025 8:16:09 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Ford recalls over 850,000 cars in the US due to potential fuel pump failure

Well...they are Fords after all.

9 posted on 07/11/2025 8:16:19 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Show me a RAT, I'll show you a felon.)
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And it’s a real pity. At one time American brand names like Ford, General Electric, etc. meant something. Not so much now. But it was bound to happen when the accountants started to overrule the engineers.

11 posted on 07/11/2025 8:18:15 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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Junk. Spent last night driving my Ex and kid back to their home after her 2017 Transit Connect van’s transmission died. She’s spent more on repairs on that thing then it cost. Everytime it goes into Ford 1 thing is fixed half-Ad and two more things break. My son and I have been telling her to junk it for years. “Your subscription to Vehicle Working has expired. Please see Ford dealer to renew your subscription”.

It’s a piece of junk.


12 posted on 07/11/2025 8:20:03 AM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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In my limited experience, I like NA engines better than turbo. Nowadays, turbo are tuned for all the torque “right now” (low in the rev range), which some people like, but I think takes away engine character.

I drove a BMW loaner car with a turbo four, a direct two-generation replacement for my NA straight six. I did not like it. There was plenty of power, but the turbo lag was atrocious. Not relevant to your question, but the stop/start function was not integrated well, was abrupt, and drove me crazy.

Also, that Nissan V-6 is a beast. They’ve been making it forever. A variant is in my wife’s Infiniti G37, and we love it.

Now, for a truck, the current turbo torque curves might work. Overall, I’d buy a Ford pickup over a Nissan, but that’s probably the leftover good vibes from my 1997 Expedition. A test drive might dispel that notion.


13 posted on 07/11/2025 8:26:12 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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Into my 2nd month with lease on a 2025 Explorer. So far so good. I switched to Ford after GM bail out. All the Fords I’ve ever owned have been reliable.


15 posted on 07/11/2025 8:29:42 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Are you now, or have you ever been, a Democrat?)
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Honda is going through the same thing. My 2018 CRV was recalled for a fuel pump problem, along with millions of others during that time period,


16 posted on 07/11/2025 8:29:55 AM PDT by rexthecat
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Yeh, buy the V6.


17 posted on 07/11/2025 8:31:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Get a V-6 not a four banger with turbo. They fail prematurely from excessive heat and an overly complicated system. Scotty Kilmer has YT videos on this. A V-8 is even better. A bigger block to dissipate heat and no expensive turbo system to fail. An even better option is buy an older vehicle without so much expensive computers and cameras and anti-pollution stuff on them.


21 posted on 07/11/2025 8:41:47 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I tried pushing the envelope but it remained stationery.)
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Small gas engines with turbos notoriously have shorter lives and will cost you more money in maintenance in the short time it lasts. I am hoping Zeldin does enough work at the EPA to reverse the stupid requirements that forced manufactures to go that route to begin with.


23 posted on 07/11/2025 8:42:50 AM PDT by MachIV
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I don’t understand why some of these companies don’t have flagship vehicles that are bulletproof. I guess they make more money with crap products.


27 posted on 07/11/2025 8:50:06 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Haven’t heard anything on my 2018 F-150 STX. Knock on metal.


30 posted on 07/11/2025 8:54:55 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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4 cylinder w/ turbos must have the oil changed regularly. The oil lubricates the turbo as well as the guts of the engine. Heat destroys dino motor oil, only use a major brand of synthetic oil. The absolute best to use is Amsoil.


32 posted on 07/11/2025 8:58:08 AM PDT by jpp113
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Turbos are race equipment. The engines burn at higher temps.
You don’t have a Pit Crew or a sponsor. Do the math. Getting 300 horse out of a naturally aspirated 6 is easy these days. Another consideration is the disposable engine. Many most or all (I don’t know which) are produced thru a new process that doesn’t involve a rebuildable block. They have some kind of arc weld looking thing that passes thru the bore and creates the surface as it goes. This surface has pits in it that ends the need for crosshatching but it is unsleeveable and can’t be bored over. When it wears out its gone.


35 posted on 07/11/2025 9:08:06 AM PDT by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.https://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=4322961%2)
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The 350 small block smiles benignly and motors on, laughing at turbo4s, V6s and other claptrap.


36 posted on 07/11/2025 9:09:57 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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My engine is twin turbo 327,000 miles this morning


37 posted on 07/11/2025 9:16:50 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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I have two old 4dr 2wd chevy blazers, an 01 (313k miles) and an 04 (258). Both still look nice. I bought the 01 in 09 with full options and 94k for only $5,600. Almost 220k later and it still has the original drive train. The only engine work was replacing the poorly engineered intake manifold gaskets a month after buying it. It still only uses about a half quart between changes. However, it is on its 4th fuel pump.

The 04 was bought in 2020 because it was cheap: $2,300. 219k with a replaced engine with 120k (I knew the trans was questionable). The engine is a freak. Hardly uses any oil between changes. Pulled the trans last fall and had it rebuilt for $1,850. In the 39k miles we’ve owned it I have replaced the fuel pump twice. However, I bought a cheap pump the first time.

Our 07 Highlander has 314k and still has the original fuel pump. However, at 305k it snapped the timing belt, which had only 68k on it (did the full job at the time: seals, idlers, water pump, and belts). The 3.3L is an interference engine. There was likely some dinged valves, but I chose to put a new timing belt on it and see what would happen. 9k later it is still running.

Because of the miles on it before the belt failure it was using about a quart and a half every 5k, had some noticable valve lash, and the check engine light was on more than off. Now it uses twice that, and the valve lash twice as noisey, yet no check engine light. Strange.


38 posted on 07/11/2025 9:19:37 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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