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To: vespa300

In my limited experience, I like NA engines better than turbo. Nowadays, turbo are tuned for all the torque “right now” (low in the rev range), which some people like, but I think takes away engine character.

I drove a BMW loaner car with a turbo four, a direct two-generation replacement for my NA straight six. I did not like it. There was plenty of power, but the turbo lag was atrocious. Not relevant to your question, but the stop/start function was not integrated well, was abrupt, and drove me crazy.

Also, that Nissan V-6 is a beast. They’ve been making it forever. A variant is in my wife’s Infiniti G37, and we love it.

Now, for a truck, the current turbo torque curves might work. Overall, I’d buy a Ford pickup over a Nissan, but that’s probably the leftover good vibes from my 1997 Expedition. A test drive might dispel that notion.


13 posted on 07/11/2025 8:26:12 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: Rinnwald

Was the problem with that BMW turbo lag, or stop/start?

A restart combined with time delay to spin up the turbo might be perceived as “turbo lag”, but really it could be more the start stop system. We have a Kia with a 2.5L turbo, and if you don’t kill the stop start, it’s atrocious from a stoplight when it has to start, get exhaust gases flowing, and spin up the turbo. If it’s idling, there’s really no lag.


18 posted on 07/11/2025 8:36:15 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Rinnwald

You contradict yourself:

“Nowadays, turbo are tuned for all the torque “right now”

“but the turbo lag was atrocious.”


57 posted on 07/11/2025 11:02:46 AM PDT by TexasGator (.i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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