Posted on 06/23/2025 2:01:03 AM PDT by RandFan
@RepMTG
My thoughts on bombing Iran.
I don’t know anyone in America who has been the victim of a crime or killed by Iran, but I know many people who have been victims of crime committed by criminal illegal aliens or MURDERED by Cartel and Chinese fentanyl/drugs.
Almost everyone in our country can relate to this fact.
However America has not dropped bunker busters on the Cartel’s sophisticated drug tunnels, launched tomahawks on massive cartel poisonous drug operations, or gone to war against the cartels international terrorists networks.
Neocon warmongers beat their drums of war and act like Billy badasses going to war in countries most Americans have never seen and can’t find on a map, but never find the courage to go to war against the actual terrorists who actually do kill Americans, invade our land, and make BILLIONS doing it day after day, year after year.
I’m 51 years old. I’m GenX.
I’ve watched our country go to war in foreign lands for foreign causes on behalf of foreign interests for as long as I can remember. I was in 10th grade when Desert Storm started and my father before me was sent to Vietnam, another senseless foreign war.
America is $37 TRILLION in debt and all of these foreign wars have cost Americans TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS of dollars that never benefited any American.
American troops have been killed and forever torn apart physically and mentally for regime change, foreign wars, and for military industrial base profits.
I’m sick of it.
I can easily say I support nuclear armed Israel’s right to defend themselves and also say at the same time I don’t want to fight or fund nuclear armed Israel’s wars.
Nor any other country for that matter.
I’m sick of funding foreign aid and foreign countries and foreign everything.
I want to fund American interests and issues.
I want GREAT trade deals so American businesses and people can afford goods and be successful.
I want low inflation and low interest rates.
I want American construction, housing, and manufacturing to BOOM.
I want Americans to be rich and have security in their future.
I want my children’s generation to HAVE A GREAT FUTURE!!!
My kids are 22, 25, and 27.
It pisses me off beyond comprehension that my children’s generation can’t afford to buy a house, can’t afford insurance, and have little hope for their future!!!
Americans are exhausted by all of this and rightfully so.
I can also support President Trump and his great administration on many of the great things they are doing while disagreeing on bombing Iran and getting involved in a hot war that Israel started.
That’s not disloyalty. Critical thinking and having my own opinions is the most American thing ever.
Because contrary to what brainwashed Democrat boomers say, Trump is not a king, MAGA is not a cult, and President Trump has surrounded himself with people who once disagreed with him and even ran against him for President.
Also the same Democrats in Congress that are all of sudden clutching their pearls about Trump bombing Iran FULLY SUPPORTED AND VOTED TO FUND Dementia ridden Biden’s proxy war against Russia in Ukraine and stood by Biden’s disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Hypocrites is all they are and they are just desperately trying to find solid ground to oppose Trump on because so far they’ve failed at grasping anything yet.
Now what has been done is done and Americans now fear Iranian terrorists attacks on our own soil and being dragged into another war by Netanyahu when we weren’t even thinking about any of this a week ago.
We don’t know what the future holds and I pray for the safety of all people and an end to the constant demand for America to go to war.
Enough is enough.
Most of that is just rhetoric Jim
The sad thing is war and conflict will keep that regime in power (and I have no love for the Islamic Republic!). They will use it to bolster themselves
It’s damn complicated....
My thoughts on MTG (”I’m sick of it”, “Enough is enough”)
“Most of that is just rhetoric”
No, it isn’t
That is a separate debate, (invite of Lebanon Gov. etc) but can also be argued that where US troops are was was no business of Iran either.
If we have military forces in the nation of, say Ogandu to help with an earthquake at the request of their government, does that make it OK for another nation to attack our personnel "because we had no business being there"?
As a sovereign nation we do not move about the world by permission of the Iranian government.
Iraq war, certainly bad juju, but was also no concern of Iran - or would blowing off the legs of our infantry be their "righteous perogative"?
I also agree .
Well said.
Typical leftist hippie “logic”.
“I don’t know anybody who has been killed by Iran”.
Maybe she should meet the families of our servicemen killed by Iran.
Or we’ll wait till she meets the atom bomb.
In 1940 she wouldn’t have known anybody killed by Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan.
Oh and she’s “sick of it “.
No logic just slogans.
And as always with the left, she’s encouraging our enemy to keep fighting while she weakens the home front.
She’s a moron.
MTG’s screed blends legitimate concerns with oversimplifications and a questionable framing of foreign threats. To respond to her (and to you, Rand) effectively, one must separate childish emotional appeal from strategic reality.
She draws a false equivalence between domestic crime and the threat of a nuclear Iran.
Foreign policy isn’t about tallying local victims—it’s about preventing catastrophic threats before they materialize. Iran with nukes isn’t like a fentanyl dealer; it’s a global threat capable of blackmail, mass destruction, or proxy terror.
Her misunderstanding of deterrence is dangerous. Iran has openly threatened to destroy Israel and the U.S. If intel showed Iran nearing nuclear capability, then acting wasn’t about serving Israel—it was about defending U.S. and global security.
She also ignores Iran’s long record of killing Americans through proxies. And while her frustration with endless wars is valid, stopping a nuclear Iran is not a “forever war”—it’s precisely the kind of limited, high-stakes action that can prevent one.
Yes, we want a booming economy and peace at home—but national security isn’t optional. Pretending we can ignore Iran’s nuclear ambitions because it’s politically convenient is a gamble no serious nation takes.
“Most of that is just rhetoric Jim”
No, it isn’t. It most definitely is not. Think of Iran as one big suicide bomber. You really want a suicide bomber with nuclear weapons?
I like MTG but many Americans have been killed by Iran so wrong on that account and more would be through their terrorist ties and if they ever get a nuke, they’ll use it.
Hell hath no fury like an already rage filled homely looking woman undergoing menopause and lacking the ability to grow old with class and grace. She’s a witch. No wonder the Dems seek to make her the face of the Republican Party.
Wow strong words. A witch?
How much longer could we have kicked the Nuclear Iran can down the road? I guess it’s one of those things we’ll never know. Like a Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris presidency.
From my profile page ...
I voted for Donald Trump because I was tired of draft-dodging Ivy League globalist pr!cks running this nation’s foreign policy.
The United States should be isolationist by nature and interventionist in rare, exceptional cases. That's the only legitimate political stature for a country that is supposed to be built on the idea of limited government. A government that pisses away thousands of lives and trillions of dollars on military campaigns in Islamic sh!t-holes halfway around the world while facilitating an invasion of Third World peasants here at home has no moral claim on any loyalty from its citizens anymore.
They. Don’t yet have nuclear potential as Iran does, Iran will also use them against us when they can. So lets.prioritize our needs.
“I thought we were against the endless foreign wars.“
I know President Trump is.
Right about now in such a case we are hearing all about how all kinds of military units are gearing up.
That’s not what this is.
War with Iran as been ongoing for 46 years, time to end it.
She’s been Brian Glenn’s main squeeze for several months now. (Another media guy [Jesse Watters, Pete Hegseth] who dumped his wife for another woman.) I wonder how/if this will impact his reporting for RAV.
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