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Did Cretan Winemakers Scam Their Roman Customers?
Archaeology Magazine ^ | June 13, 2025 | editors / unattributed

Posted on 06/17/2025 9:33:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A recent investigation by University College Dublin archaeologist Conor Trainor posits that ceramic beehives found at the site of Knossos may be evidence that merchants on the island of Crete sold counterfeit products to their Roman clientele, The Conversation reports. Crete specialized in the production of a particular raisin wine sometimes known as passum. Drying out grapes before fermentation and making wine from raisins produces a sweeter vintage that was popular across the ancient Mediterranean world, especially with the Romans. However, this process requires time and patience, two things that Roman consumers may not have had. Trainor believes that there may have been a duplicitous reason behind the presence of beehives found at a wine-producing site in Knossos. To keep up with demand, winemakers may have been mixing honey with their wine to artificially sweeten it, a much swifter and less expensive option than having to wait months for grapes to dry out. Given the large volume of empty Cretan wine amphoras found in Rome, however, this did not seem to spoil the city's thirst for the island specialty.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: cretanwine; crete; godsgravesglyphs; mead; oenology; passitodipantelleria; romanempire; wine; zymurgy

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1 posted on 06/17/2025 9:33:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 06/17/2025 9:33:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t drink. But I wouldn’t mind trying it once. Can that stuff be bought?


3 posted on 06/17/2025 9:34:52 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He was so fat that it took a year for his memory foam mattress to forget him. )
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To: Jonty30
Honey wine is called mead and you can get that.
4 posted on 06/17/2025 9:37:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I wouldn’t mind trying it. I will look it up and see if I can buy a cooler sized bottle.


5 posted on 06/17/2025 9:42:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He was so fat that it took a year for his memory foam mattress to forget him. )
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To: SunkenCiv
Did Cretan Winemakers Scam Their Roman Customers?

Were they selling something that was difficult or time consuming to make and thus had a high price tag?

Then of course, at least some of them were.

Fashions and taste come and go, people stay the same.

6 posted on 06/17/2025 9:46:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Did Cretan Winemakers Scam Their Roman Customers?
"Drying out grapes before fermentation and making wine from raisins produces a sweeter vintage that was popular across the ancient Mediterranean world, especially with the Romans. However, this process requires time and patience, two things that Roman consumers winemakers may not have had."
Regards,
7 posted on 06/17/2025 9:47:21 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Jonty30

If you click on the word mead in my previous post it is a link to a search.


8 posted on 06/17/2025 9:52:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: Jonty30
Now days it is called Passito di Pantelleria and goes from anywhere from $30 a bottle to about $150.

It packs a kick so serve in small glasses.

9 posted on 06/17/2025 9:54:22 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: SunkenCiv
One of Crete’s own prophets has said it:
“Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.”
This saying is true.
Titus 1:12-13

10 posted on 06/17/2025 9:55:08 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“…all who were appointed for eternal life believed.” Acts 13:48)
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To: SunkenCiv

Those Cretans!


11 posted on 06/17/2025 9:56:47 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: SunkenCiv

There’s no stoppin’ the Cretans from hoppin’.


12 posted on 06/17/2025 10:02:16 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: SunkenCiv

“The Cretans are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies” ( Titus 1:12 ).


13 posted on 06/17/2025 10:08:51 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: SunkenCiv

Probably. They had a bad reputation.


14 posted on 06/17/2025 10:11:16 PM PDT by madison10
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To: SunkenCiv

Not a fan of sweet wines to drink, maybe to use in a pasta sauce.


15 posted on 06/17/2025 11:47:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Anyone who has visited Knossos knows it is a fantastical creation of a self promoting archeologist. Indeed it is a wonderful visit. But seems quite absurd.

That said. A fantastic place to visit considering the achievements in sewage and I irrigation infrastructure. And if you go Xania is a wonderful vacation spot. L


16 posted on 06/17/2025 11:48:51 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: SunkenCiv

As long as it tasted good and had the expected alcohol content, no harm done, I suppose. For all we know the honey might have been a known ingredient prized by consumers that gave the Cretan passum a distinctive taste that customers desired.


17 posted on 06/17/2025 11:55:03 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Secret Agent Man

Might be good in a number of dishes that could benefit from added swetness


18 posted on 06/18/2025 12:04:16 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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To: Jonty30
I don’t drink. But I wouldn’t mind trying it once. Can that stuff be bought?

I've seen an Italian dessert wine with the word "Passum" on the bottle; didn't know about the use of raisins. A lot of the sweet dessert wines are sold in smaller (375ml) bottles (the one I saw was tall and skinny, like a bottle you might find balsamic vinegar or similar sold in).

19 posted on 06/18/2025 12:17:52 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Jonty30

You can also buy Amarone wines, made from dried grapes.

True Amarone style wines are expensive, an issue that has ever been [and the point of the article].


20 posted on 06/18/2025 3:05:42 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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