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The Garden Thread - June, 2025
June 1, 2025 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 06/01/2025 5:48:14 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The MONTHLY Gardening Thread is a gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to/removed from our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a MONTH Ping List, but we DO post to the thread all throughout the month. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: Liz; Diana in Wisconsin; All

Those are beautiful eggs!


661 posted on 06/28/2025 11:02:22 AM PDT by AFB-XYZ (( We have two options: 1. Stand up, or 2. Bend over))
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To: Paul R.; All

~20 % chance of rain this morning said NWS (starting around 6 am it was lower) and we’ve already had 3x HEAVY thundershowers. At least the ground had dried out “some”.

It looks like this ramps up for ~ 3 days and then hopefully tails off.


662 posted on 06/28/2025 11:12:33 AM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If very hot and sandy is ok, come see me.


663 posted on 06/28/2025 11:13:47 AM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Liz

I’ve had good luck with “Easter Eggers” avoiding predation, and they generally seem to be quite durable and hardy.


664 posted on 06/28/2025 11:17:15 AM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It gets worse as you approach 70... :-(


665 posted on 06/28/2025 11:18:52 AM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: AFB-XYZ

Early Girls are rather bland and heat seems to do them in. BUT, I’m trying one I overwintered after it managed to survive last summer, this year in a pot in a partially shaded spot. So far, it’s doing ok. Best so far, possibly because I’ve pampered them the most(!), are the Golden Jubilees (new plants, this year), and they are beginning to produce. Ditto for a couple Romas I overwintered* in pots.

*It take a a LOT of light - ordinary grow bulbs don’t do the job well for me. Possibly radiated heat from the 10k lumen (claimed) shop light I eventually put up 2 ft., above the plants, did the trick, as the “overwintering” room gets pretty cool on really cold days.(?)


666 posted on 06/28/2025 11:30:29 AM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Paul R.

What kind of luck have you had with either Better Boy or Bodacious? Those are the varieties I’ve got in containers. The Bodacious did produce a couple of early tomatoes, but sadly, I lost them to blossom-end rot. The foliage itself, however, still looks good, and there are several new blossoms appearing, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed.

I think that all of OK’s recent extraordinarily heavy rain for weeks and weeks must have something to do with why some things that always grew in prior years have died, and others that never grew before are going crazy now. Mother Nature is a weird lady.


667 posted on 06/28/2025 11:41:09 AM PDT by AFB-XYZ (( We have two options: 1. Stand up, or 2. Bend over))
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To: Qiviut

<>I have the bad habit of trying new dishes on the family at Thanksgiving. So far, I’ve only had one flop.<>

My wife had only one flop too.

It was when she popped a bottle of champagne over the Turkey spread. The cork hit the overhead chandelier sending shards of glass all over everything.


668 posted on 06/28/2025 12:31:07 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: AFB-XYZ

I’ve had pretty good luck with Better Boys started from 6-packs from Menards. They are tasty, too! They don’t always do well directly from the 6-packs though: I usually put them in 6” tall pots I make from the bottom of 2L soda bottles, with holes drilled or melted into the bottom(s). Then move ‘em to the garden itself (soil) when they are 12 - 15 inches tall and I can see good root growth through the pots’ “walls”, but not so dense as to be rootbound. IMO they are a bit tricky in hot dry weather and our clay soils, and left in pots heat really seems to get ‘em. (Granted, that was right beside / compared to some Heatwave II’s, which tolerate heat pretty well. In our nearly impervious ground soils, then, trying to keep Better Boys going in dry heat*, it is easy to overwater them and lose the roots.

Bodacious I have not tried, nor seen around here.

I definitely agree about the rain. This was a very tough Spring, here, too.


669 posted on 06/28/2025 12:54:10 PM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Jacquerie

I think that could accurately be called a ‘disaster’!!


670 posted on 06/28/2025 2:04:58 PM PDT by Qiviut (Imagine waking up in the morning & only having the things you thanked God for yesterday. (S. Peters))
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To: Qiviut

I rescued the confab with Bubba Burgers.


671 posted on 06/28/2025 2:14:08 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

Nice ‘save’! :-)


672 posted on 06/28/2025 2:24:34 PM PDT by Qiviut (Imagine waking up in the morning & only having the things you thanked God for yesterday. (S. Peters))
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To: FamiliarFace
I’ll be on the lookout.

Oh, you'd know! It spreads like wildfire.

673 posted on 06/28/2025 2:31:10 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Think about it: The Supreme Court is nine lawyers appointed for life by politicians. —David Horowitz)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
There was a lot of rain in the evening yesterday and more is coming, probably to you as well. Saves on watering!

Not for me. I'm growing under a roof this year so no rain. I'm about ready to put what little bit of gutter I have on the tunnel and run it into an IBC tank.

I had planned to stop by the creek for water on the way home from work, but it's raining. Tunnel tank is getting low. I'm going to head to the shed here shortly and reduce the watering schedule from three times a day to one. Seeded bed has almost been too wet and it looks like cloudy weather through the weekend so there won't be much sun to bake it dry. Hopefully it won't be raining at 4pm tomorrow or Monday when I come by the creek after work.

Swapping to weekend shift gave me a little pay bump; $100/wk - $400/mth (half my bills). My review is still in limbo but when it's complete, I should get another bump. This paycheck will do vehicle ins/reg renewals but in two weeks, I can spend on homestead stuff, and myself.

674 posted on 06/28/2025 3:30:37 PM PDT by Pollard (Rambling Man)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I went to that site and bookmarked it for later. The chicken and dumplings caught my eye. I have a small crockpot that would do nicely.


675 posted on 06/28/2025 3:55:07 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Well, poop. I went out after our heavy rains this morning and early afternoon, and the remaining Opo, in the pot, looks a bit worse than B4. It certainly has stopped growing and the fruits are rotting B4 they barely get started. Up to a week ago this thing was growing a foot or more a day and flowering. There is no obvious external evidence of insect pests. Leaves well up the vine still look ok, but newer small ones are not growing and new leaves are not appearing. The leaves past 6 ft. from the ground look ok (nice and green, not wilting, but I can tell the failure is moving ip the vine. Blooming has stopped.

FWIW, the pot drains well and has new potting soil in it. Nothing fancy, it’s just the Wally World “Expert” brand potting soil, but potted tomatoes and eggplants in same are doing fine to great. It worked fine for the Opo 3 years ago, too.

This sort of thing has happened to most of my plants in this group (melons, gourds, cucumbers, etc.) the last couple years. 3 years ago the Opo was fantastic & produced until frost. Now I can’t get ‘em to make it to July? (Well, ok, last year a couple of the Opo plants were “ok” until the squirrels attacked them.) But other melons, cukes, and squashes failed in late July, similar symptoms. Some sort of vine stem attacker?? :-(

Maybe I should break open stems right when the plant completely dies and look for marauders?

This is depressing. Opo especially is just so ridiculously useful (soups, salads, spaghetti sauce filler, etc.) And “normally” it grows huge fruits.


676 posted on 06/28/2025 4:14:30 PM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Pollard

Rain broke and it cleared up a bit so I made a water run. I lose a lot with the jury rig setup I have to transfer water from on IBC tank to another so I’m going to Menard’s tomorrow to get an actual transfer pump. Also moved the one tunnel IBC tank to line up with tunnel side for gutter.


677 posted on 06/28/2025 6:09:37 PM PDT by Pollard (Rambling Man)
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To: Paul R.

Squash vine borer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squash_vine_borer


678 posted on 06/28/2025 6:27:23 PM PDT by Qiviut (Imagine waking up in the morning & only having the things you thanked God for yesterday. (S. Peters))
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To: FrozenAssets
“and other delights...”

blackflies, mosquitoes, deer flies. And! Aurora and long summer days! :)

679 posted on 06/28/2025 8:42:57 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Paul R.

“Maybe I should break open stems right when the plant completely dies and look for marauders?”

The way they’re dying off so fast is more than likely vine borers. :(

https://www.epicgardening.com/squash-vine-borer/


680 posted on 06/29/2025 6:14:54 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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