The MAGA Trump Train ~ April 1 to May 31 2025

In the same way, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Luke 15:10

He lives just one sister

https://x.com/randomtheguy_/status/1920144999561519496?s=46&t=f_8PqEXFBlW87QFKb_1Q4g

You memory…cortisol

X thread

https://x.com/healthh_booster/status/1920093662731772315?s=46&t=f_8PqEXFBlW87QFKb_1Q4g

I think this is from a parody account, Dolly.

There are a million of them on X concerning Musk.

There is nothing on Maye Musk’s X account.

The image appears to be AI.

Superfoods you should consume every day

Thread on X

https://x.com/masculinea7/status/1920109733337551055?s=46&t=f_8PqEXFBlW87QFKb_1Q4g

Drat Thought this was Elon’s

LOVES
NOT
LIVES

Lies re: food is safe vs food that is bad for you

https://x.com/masculinea7/status/1920109733337551055?s=46&t=f_8PqEXFBlW87QFKb_1Q4g

Wearing a red dress should have been a clue.

So cute and funny.

ya I got the same feeling when I watched a vid of a supposed interview of his sone X. There was just a picture of X in a Jesus t shirt and a long monologue about what X said about Jesus. I think somebody is getting quite creative with Ai, it is rather disturbing if it is not true.

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1920239746736865741

Nick Sortor
@nicksortor
🚨 UPDATE: Palestine protestors are now PLEADING to be let out of the Columbia University which they invaded, as officials BLOCK them from leaving without ID https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1920231500902985747/video/1

“Please, please let us out!” 🤣

Those who REFUSE to provide ID are being arrested on the spot. THIS is how it’s done! 🔥

there is a song like that, only it's let me in

Let me in wee ooh

Estimate how many CIA agents or operatives work illegally inside any of the Federal Government departments in the United States, and especially those located in and around Washington, DC.

Estimating the number of CIA agents or operatives working illegally within U.S. Federal Government departments, particularly in and around Washington, DC, is inherently speculative due to the classified nature of CIA operations, the lack of public data, and the legal constraints on CIA domestic activities. However, I can provide an informed analysis based on available information, historical context, and the legal framework governing CIA operations, while critically examining the question and avoiding unfounded assumptions.
Legal and Historical Context
The CIA is primarily a foreign intelligence service, tasked with collecting, analyzing, and disseminating intelligence on foreign threats to U.S. national security. The National Security Act of 1947, which established the CIA, explicitly prohibits the agency from engaging in domestic security functions or conducting operations against U.S. citizens or entities on U.S. soil. This restriction was reinforced due to concerns from President Truman about potential political abuse.

However, historical instances of CIA overreach into domestic activities have been documented, often revealed years later through declassified documents or congressional investigations:
Operation CHAOS (1960s–1970s): The CIA illegally spied on up to 7,000 U.S. citizens involved in the anti-war movement, in violation of its charter.

MKULTRA (1950s–1970s): The CIA conducted domestic experiments involving mind-control drugs on unwitting U.S. subjects, which was later deemed illegal and unconstitutional.

Family Jewels (1970s): Declassified documents revealed CIA activities such as domestic wiretapping, mail interception (Project HTLINGUAL), and surveillance of U.S. citizens, prompting congressional oversight and reforms.

Post-9/11 Activities: Reports suggest the CIA operated covertly in the U.S., such as at 7 World Trade Center under the guise of another federal agency, though these activities were not necessarily illegal if coordinated with other agencies like the FBI.

These incidents indicate that illegal CIA domestic operations have occurred but were typically limited in scope, involving specific programs rather than widespread infiltration of federal departments. After the 1970s, reforms like the establishment of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) increased oversight to prevent such violations.

Estimating Illegal CIA Operatives in Federal Departments
No credible, publicly available data directly quantifies the number of CIA operatives working illegally within U.S. federal departments. Any estimate must therefore rely on reasoned assumptions, historical patterns, and the structure of the CIA’s operations.
CIA’s Domestic Presence:
The CIA’s National Resources Division (NRD) is the domestic wing responsible for liaising with U.S. businesses, academics, and other entities to gather foreign intelligence voluntarily. These activities are legal and conducted openly in the U.S.

The CIA’s headquarters in Langley, Virginia, is near Washington, DC, and employs thousands of personnel, but these are administrative, analytical, or operational roles focused on foreign intelligence, not illegal domestic work.

The CIA’s Office of Military Affairs and other liaison offices work with the Department of Defense and other federal agencies, but these are authorized, transparent interactions.

Potential for Illegal Operations:
Illegal operations would likely involve covert actions, such as placing operatives under nonofficial cover (NOC) or using false identities to infiltrate federal departments for unauthorized purposes (e.g., spying on U.S. officials or manipulating policy). Such activities would violate the CIA’s charter and risk severe legal and political consequences if exposed.

Historical cases (e.g., Nixon’s “Plumbers” involving former CIA officers) suggest that illegal activities were often conducted by rogue elements or former operatives rather than active CIA personnel under official orders.

The CIA’s budget and personnel are heavily scrutinized by Congress and the Office of Management and Budget, limiting the resources available for unauthorized operations.

Scale and Feasibility:
The CIA’s total workforce is classified but estimated to be around 20,000–30,000 globally, with the majority focused on foreign operations. Only a small fraction would be case officers or operatives capable of covert work, and an even smaller subset would be assigned to domestic tasks.

Illegal operations within federal departments would require significant resources, coordination, and risk management, making large-scale infiltration unlikely. The post-1970s oversight mechanisms, including the CIA’s Office of Inspector General, further deter such activities.

Washington, DC, hosts numerous federal agencies, including the FBI, which has domestic counterintelligence responsibilities and would likely detect unauthorized CIA activities.

Hypothetical Estimate:
Given the legal prohibitions, oversight, and historical precedent, the number of active CIA operatives working illegally within federal departments is likely minimal, if not zero, under normal circumstances.

In extreme scenarios (e.g., a rogue operation or a national security crisis), a small number of operatives—perhaps fewer than 10–20—might be involved in unauthorized activities, but this would be an exception rather than the norm. These operatives would likely be case officers or contractors, as seen in past scandals (e.g., Nixon’s Plumbers).

In Washington, DC, the proximity to oversight bodies and the FBI’s counterintelligence presence would make sustained illegal operations particularly risky, further reducing the likelihood of significant numbers.

Critical Examination
The notion of CIA operatives working illegally within federal departments often stems from conspiracy theories or sensationalized media portrayals, which exaggerate the agency’s domestic role. While historical abuses like Operation CHAOS and MKULTRA demonstrate the CIA’s capacity for illegal actions, these were exposed and curtailed through reforms. The modern intelligence community operates under stricter oversight, and interagency cooperation (e.g., with the FBI and NSA) reduces the need for illegal CIA operations domestically.

However, the CIA’s secrecy and past violations fuel skepticism about its adherence to legal boundaries. The agency’s ability to use contractors or nonofficial cover could theoretically enable small-scale, deniable operations, but no evidence suggests widespread infiltration of federal departments today. Allegations of such activities often lack corroboration and may reflect distrust in government institutions rather than concrete data.

Conclusion
Based on available information, I estimate that the number of CIA agents or operatives working illegally within U.S. Federal Government departments, including in and around Washington, DC, is likely zero or extremely low (fewer than 10–20) at any given time. This estimate accounts for the CIA’s legal constraints, historical patterns of limited domestic violations, and modern oversight mechanisms. Without specific evidence of ongoing illegal operations, any higher estimate would be speculative and unsupported. For further insight, declassified records or congressional reports would be the most reliable sources, though they may not provide real-time data.

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Estimate how many CIA agents or operatives work illegally inside any of the Federal Government departments in the United States, and especially those located in and around Washington, DC.

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Researching CIA operatives

The request is about estimating CIA agents working illegally in Federal Government departments, especially around Washington, DC. I’m considering how sensitive this topic is, with likely no public data due to classification.

The CIA focuses on foreign intelligence, and its charter bars domestic operations. Still, history shows some domestic involvement, often uncovered later through declassified docs.

Searching for “CIA agents working illegally in US federal departments”

CIA activities in the United States - Wikipedia
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How the CIA Is Acting Outside the Law to Spy on Americans | Brennan Center for Justice
www.brennancenter.org

Frequently Asked Questions - CIA
www.cia.gov

How does the FBI differ from the Central Intelligence Agency? | Federal Bureau of Investigation
www.fbi.gov

Central Intelligence Agency - Wikipedia
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Web search shows the CIA is barred from domestic ops against U.S. citizens, per the 1947 Act. There is a lot here about its foreign focus, like in Britannica.

Historically, the CIA did domestic spying, like Operation CHAOS in the ‘60s, violating its charter. I’m finding info on past illegal activities, such as in ACLU.

The CIA collects info on foreign entities, while the FBI handles U.S. persons, including domestically. I’m exploring how this distinction affects potential illegal activities.

Recent concerns show the CIA might bypass privacy laws using executive orders, per Brennan Center. Let’s check if this hints at illegal work in federal departments.

Searching for “declassified CIA documents domestic operations”

Declassified Documents - Finding Government Documents - Research Guides at Library of Congress
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Historical Collections | CIA FOIA (foia.cia.gov)
www.cia.gov

Declassified documents reveal CIA has been sweeping up information on Americans | CIA | The Guardian
www.theguardian.com

r/AskReddit on Reddit: What are the craziest declassified CIA documents?
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DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS RELATED TO 9/11 ATTACKS | CIA FOIA (foia.cia.gov)
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Declassified docs show the CIA’s FOIA Reading Room has collections on domestic operations. I’m curious if these include info on agents in federal departments, like at CIA FOIA.

The Guardian reported the CIA collected Americans’ private info in bulk, per declassified docs. This makes me wonder if it relates to illegal activities within government, as noted in The Guardian.

To get specifics, I’m thinking of browsing the CIA’s FOIA Reading Room for documents on domestic ops. Let’s see what we can find at their site.

I’m browsing the CIA’s FOIA Reading Room for documents on domestic operations or agents in federal departments. Hopefully, this will uncover more details to help with the request.

Browsing cia.gov for “documents on CIA domestic operations or agents in federal departments”

The FOIA Reading Room has collections like “The Nixon Collection” and “Current/Central Intelligence Bulletin,” covering historical periods with known domestic activities. I’m checking if they mention agents in federal departments, such as at CIA FOIA.

“Current/Central Intelligence Bulletin Collection” includes 1961 reports, around Operation CHAOS time, but no specific mention of domestic ops. Let’s see if other collections offer more clues.

From earlier web search, the National Archives might have declassified CIA docs. I’m thinking of searching there for more on domestic operations.

Searching for “National Archives declassified CIA documents”

Declassified Documents - Finding Government Documents - Research Guides at Library of Congress
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Historical Collections | CIA FOIA (foia.cia.gov)
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The National Declassification Center | National Archives
www.archives.gov

CIA Records - Name Files | National Archives
www.archives.gov

The National Security Archive, at The George Washington University
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The National Archives has a section for declassified CIA records, specifically under “Records of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).” I’m browsing that page to see if there are specific collections or documents related to domestic operations, like at Archives.

Browsing archives.gov for “declassified documents on CIA domestic operations”

National Archives collections like “Records of Team A and Team B Estimates” might hint at domestic activities, especially with interagency work. I’m checking if they include info on CIA agents in federal departments, such as at Archives.

Since I haven’t found direct evidence, I’m relying on historical context and expert opinions. Let’s search for analyses on CIA agents in federal departments to get more insights.

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Central Intelligence Agency - Wikipedia
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Organizational structure of the Central Intelligence Agency - Wikipedia
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Careers - CIA
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Organization - CIA
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About CIA - CIA
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The CIA’s charter prohibits domestic operations, focusing on foreign intelligence. Still, history shows past violations, like Operation CHAOS in the ‘60s and ‘70s.

There’s no public data on illegal CIA agents in federal departments, given the classified nature. I’m considering historical precedents to estimate likelihood.

Recent reports suggest the CIA collects domestic data under legal frameworks, not necessarily illegal. I’m wondering if this includes work within federal departments, like in The Guardian.

Estimating agent numbers

Estimating CIA agents working illegally is tough due to classification. Such operations would likely be small, maybe 10-20 operatives, given the risk of detection.

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Key Points
Research suggests the number of CIA agents working illegally in U.S. federal departments, especially around Washington, DC, is likely very low, possibly 0 to 20.

The CIA is legally restricted from domestic operations, but historical cases show occasional violations, creating controversy.

Modern oversight and legal frameworks likely limit such activities, but exact numbers remain classified and speculative.

Background
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) primarily focuses on foreign intelligence, as outlined in the National Security Act of 1947, which prohibits domestic operations against U.S. citizens or entities. However, historical instances, like Operation CHAOS in the 1960s, reveal past illegal domestic activities, fueling ongoing debates about oversight and legality.
Estimate
Given the legal constraints, historical patterns of limited violations, and modern oversight by bodies like the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, it seems likely that the number of CIA agents working illegally within federal departments is minimal. The evidence leans toward fewer than 10–20 operatives, with a higher probability closer to zero, especially in Washington, DC, due to proximity to oversight agencies like the FBI.
Challenges
Estimating this number is complex due to the classified nature of CIA operations and lack of public data. Any figure is speculative, reflecting the balance between historical abuses and current legal safeguards.
Survey Note: Detailed Analysis of CIA Agents in U.S. Federal Departments
This survey note provides a comprehensive examination of the query regarding the estimated number of CIA agents or operatives working illegally inside U.S. Federal Government departments, with a particular focus on those located in and around Washington, DC. The analysis integrates historical context, legal frameworks, and modern oversight mechanisms to offer a detailed, evidence-based estimate.
Legal Framework and Historical Context
The CIA, established by the National Security Act of 1947, is primarily tasked with collecting, analyzing, and disseminating foreign intelligence to assist U.S. policymakers. Its charter explicitly prohibits domestic security functions or operations against U.S. citizens or entities on U.S. soil, a restriction rooted in concerns about potential political abuse, as highlighted by President Truman (Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) | History, Organization, Responsibilities, Activities, & Criticism | Britannica).
Despite these legal constraints, historical instances of CIA overreach into domestic activities have been documented, often revealed through declassified documents or congressional investigations:
Operation CHAOS (1960s–1970s): The CIA illegally spied on up to 7,000 U.S. citizens involved in the anti-war movement, violating its charter, as noted in the ACLU’s discussion on intelligence agencies spying (More About Intelligence Agencies (CIA/DNI) Spying | American Civil Liberties Union).

MKULTRA (1950s–1970s): The CIA conducted domestic experiments involving mind-control drugs on unwitting U.S. subjects, later deemed illegal and unconstitutional, as part of its historical activities (Central Intelligence Agency - Wikipedia).

Family Jewels (1970s): Declassified documents revealed CIA activities such as domestic wiretapping, mail interception (Project HTLINGUAL), and surveillance of U.S. citizens, prompting reforms and increased oversight, as discussed in Wikipedia’s coverage of CIA activities (CIA activities in the United States - Wikipedia).

These incidents were typically limited in scope, involving specific programs rather than widespread infiltration of federal departments. The exposure of these activities in the 1970s led to significant reforms, including the establishment of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), enhancing congressional oversight to prevent future violations.
Modern Context and Oversight
In the current landscape, the CIA’s domestic presence is primarily through its National Resources Division (NRD), which legally liaises with U.S. businesses, academics, and other entities to gather foreign intelligence voluntarily, as outlined in the CIA’s organizational structure (Organizational structure of the Central Intelligence Agency - Wikipedia). The CIA’s headquarters in Langley, Virginia, near Washington, DC, employs thousands of personnel, but these roles are administrative, analytical, or focused on foreign intelligence, not illegal domestic operations (About CIA - CIA).
Recent concerns have emerged about the CIA’s domestic activities, such as bulk collection of Americans’ private information, revealed by declassified documents and criticized by civil liberties watchdogs, as reported by The Guardian (Declassified documents reveal CIA has been sweeping up information on Americans | CIA | The Guardian). However, these activities are often conducted under executive orders or legal frameworks, raising questions about privacy rather than outright illegality.
Modern oversight mechanisms, including the CIA’s Office of Inspector General and congressional intelligence committees, further deter unauthorized domestic activities. The FBI, with its domestic counterintelligence responsibilities, also plays a role in detecting unauthorized CIA operations, especially in Washington, DC, where federal agencies are concentrated (How does the FBI differ from the Central Intelligence Agency? | Federal Bureau of Investigation).
Estimating Illegal CIA Operatives in Federal Departments
Estimating the number of CIA agents working illegally within federal departments is inherently speculative due to the classified nature of such operations and the lack of public data. However, several factors inform this estimate:
CIA Workforce and Focus: The CIA’s total workforce is estimated at 20,000–30,000 globally, with the majority focused on foreign operations. Only a small fraction, likely case officers or operatives, would be capable of covert work, and an even smaller subset would be assigned to domestic tasks (Top 10 CIA Myths - CIA). Illegal operations would be an extreme exception, given the legal and political risks.

Historical Patterns: Past illegal domestic operations, such as Operation CHAOS, involved a limited number of operatives and were eventually exposed. These were not sustained efforts to infiltrate federal departments but rather targeted programs, suggesting that any current illegal activities would be similarly small-scale (Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) | USAGov).

Scale and Feasibility: Illegal operations within federal departments would require significant resources, coordination, and risk management, making large-scale infiltration unlikely. The proximity to Washington, DC, where oversight bodies and the FBI are concentrated, further reduces the feasibility of sustained illegal activities.

Recent Allegations: Reports of the CIA collecting domestic data, as revealed in 2022, suggest potential gray areas, but these are typically under legal frameworks rather than outright illegal operations, as discussed by the Brennan Center for Justice (How the CIA Is Acting Outside the Law to Spy on Americans | Brennan Center for Justice).

Given these factors, the number of CIA agents working illegally within federal departments is likely minimal, if not zero, under normal circumstances. In extreme scenarios, such as rogue operations, the number might be as high as 10–20, but this would be an exception rather than the norm. The concentration of oversight in Washington, DC, suggests even lower numbers in that area.
Detailed Estimate and Tables
To organize the analysis, consider the following table summarizing key historical and modern factors influencing the estimate:
Factor

Details

Impact on Estimate

Legal Restrictions

CIA charter prohibits domestic operations against U.S. persons.

Reduces likelihood of illegal activities.

Historical Violations

Operation CHAOS, MKULTRA involved small-scale domestic spying.

Suggests limited, not widespread, activity.

Modern Oversight

SSCI, HPSCI, and CIA Inspector General provide checks.

Likely deters illegal operations.

Washington, DC, Proximity

High concentration of FBI and oversight bodies.

Increases risk, reduces feasibility.

Workforce and Focus

Majority focused on foreign intelligence, small fraction for domestic roles.

Limits potential for large-scale illegality.

Based on this analysis, the estimated number of CIA agents working illegally inside U.S. Federal Government departments, especially in and around Washington, DC, is likely 0 to 20, with a higher probability towards the lower end (closer to 0). This range reflects the balance between historical abuses and current legal safeguards, acknowledging the classified nature of such activities.
Conclusion
This survey note concludes that, given the legal prohibitions, historical patterns of limited domestic violations, and modern oversight mechanisms, the number of CIA agents or operatives working illegally within U.S. Federal Government departments is likely very low, possibly between 0 and 20, with a higher likelihood of being closer to zero, especially in Washington, DC. The estimate is speculative due to the lack of public data, but it is informed by a comprehensive review of historical and contemporary evidence.
Key Citations
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) History Organization Responsibilities Activities Criticism Britannica

CIA activities in the United States Wikipedia

How the CIA Is Acting Outside the Law to Spy on Americans Brennan Center for Justice

More About Intelligence Agencies CIA DNI Spying American Civil Liberties Union

Declassified documents reveal CIA has been sweeping up information on Americans CIA The Guardian

Top 10 CIA Myths CIA

Central Intelligence Agency CIA USAGov

Organizational structure of the Central Intelligence Agency Wikipedia

How does the FBI differ from the Central Intelligence Agency Federal Bureau of Investigation

Declassified Documents Finding Government Documents Research Guides Library of Congress

About CIA CIA

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Multiple working links at the above link, matching all of the posted non-working links in my lengthy post.

Yes, I find Grok extremely helpful in providing in-depth information. Did you know that you can look at your Grok history and Grok bookmarks? Click “history” in the upper right of the Grok mainpage and a sidebar opens with that info.

Thank you! I did bookmark the piece that I posted. I’ll check the history too.

Having what I would consider moderate success with my inquiry, I am motivated to fine-tune more questions regarding corruption in the FED GOV.

Good to see you active on the board.

I have to run some errands involving the DMV (proxy). There are no lines at the proxy, making it a much better experience.

Good luck. I’ve heard horror stories. Mostly my experiences in my county have been short and sweet.