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New clearest footage showing the crash moment of Delta Air Lines plane at Toronto Airport
Twitter/X ^ | February 18, 2025

Posted on 02/18/2025 6:13:51 AM PST by lowbridge

BREAKING: New clearest footage showing the crash moment of Delta Air Lines plane at Toronto Airport. All passengers survived

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: deipilot; delta; microburst; planecrash; toronto
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To: mikhailovich

Spokesman just said crosswinds were not present.

An acute loss of headwind and wind shear can result in the sudden loss of altitude and at the height the plane was, dropping to the pavement may have sheared off the landing gear. Wind shear result in sudden loss of altitude and on short final happens too low to be recoverable. Recall Delta 191 at DFW years ago.


61 posted on 02/18/2025 7:43:13 AM PST by DrHFrog
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To: mikhailovich

Spokesman just said crosswinds were not present.

Like I said, I am not expert. I’ll take a wait and see..


62 posted on 02/18/2025 7:47:58 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I’ll take a wait and see...)
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To: DrHFrog

I would also bet that “flap placement” decisions will come into play. Maybe the pilot wanted less flap to get down faster and lost lift as a result.


63 posted on 02/18/2025 7:49:04 AM PST by mikhailovich
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To: DrHFrog

I wasn’t implicating them or indicting anyone. By ‘suspect’ I imply speculation.

I know that the pilots might take it personal if they came here and read such speculations, but I find that extremely unlikely to happen.

They did seem to be coming in fast though, so if your theory of windsheer or microburst would beg one to ask why the increased speed didn’t help them keep more lift.


64 posted on 02/18/2025 7:56:31 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: lowbridge

Nice attempt at a three point landing!


65 posted on 02/18/2025 7:57:16 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Will we ever know who the pilots were?

Thank God for all of the snow/snow banks. 🙏🏻


66 posted on 02/18/2025 7:59:05 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Brian Griffin

Remember to keep your seat belt on until the plane comes to a complete stop.


67 posted on 02/18/2025 8:00:47 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: okkev68

The landing didn’t look that unusual.

I thought it looked a landing gear failure was probably the cause because the weather didn’t seem to be a problem.


68 posted on 02/18/2025 8:12:31 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: BobL
Who knows - put me in a different car and I’m jumpy on the brakes too.

Same here. Takes a few times of stopping to get it right.

69 posted on 02/18/2025 8:17:33 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: UnBubba
Pilot error. ... Too low. Too hot.

I'm not a pilot but they had one an TV and he thought the plane came in MUCH too SLOW for the amount of crosswind they had.

70 posted on 02/18/2025 8:18:54 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Chainmail

Yeah, that seems to happen when planes flip. Saw a video of a couple of years ago where a prop plane flipped. Once one wing ..... “detaches” the other one just does what wings do — it elevates in the air and flips the plane over. Inevitable.

Also what saved lives was that everyone was strapped in. Not like mid-air crappola where most are not .


71 posted on 02/18/2025 8:22:56 AM PST by bobbo666
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To: libertylover
You mentioned crosswinds. One of the airport spokesmen said there were not any crosswinds. If accurate, that means the pilot was dealing with either tailwinds (unlikely) or landing into the wind, which is the norm.

At this point it looks like the possibilities are 1. Too slow/too fast, 2. No flare, 3. Insufficient flaps, 4. Wind shear. That ought to narrow it down!

72 posted on 02/18/2025 8:26:13 AM PST by mikhailovich
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To: z3n

I suspect they were aware of the gusting wind and as a result were carrying excessive speed as is protocol. I add 10 knots when landing with gusting winds and in this case the wind was reported (so they have said) at 270 degrees at 38 gusting to 38 and the runway was 23 which gave them some cross wind as well.


73 posted on 02/18/2025 8:36:20 AM PST by DrHFrog
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To: RedElement

Main gear down but not locked?


74 posted on 02/18/2025 8:46:46 AM PST by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: Pollard

look closely as the camaera pans across...you can see the wind blowing snow across the pavement.


75 posted on 02/18/2025 9:02:25 AM PST by basalt (he "legacy")
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To: mikhailovich

you can see the wind blowing snow across the pavement as the camera pans...


76 posted on 02/18/2025 9:03:23 AM PST by basalt (he "legacy")
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To: basalt
"you can see the wind blowing snow across the pavement as the camera pans..."

Just reporting what the airport official said.

77 posted on 02/18/2025 9:24:42 AM PST by mikhailovich
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To: DrHFrog

Agreed, it’s too early to say the exact cause but wind shear can’t be ruled out - can cause “the bottom to drop out” close to the ground.

Not a chance the altimeter had anything to do with it - once they break out of the clouds (assuming they intend to land) they go visual with glances inside for airspeed and descent rate.

This landing was WAY too hard, but blowing snow can create illusions in visual cues - or if they were very slow, the flare would not arrest the descent rate enough, or at all (and the sudden loss in airspeed could have been due to a gust).


78 posted on 02/18/2025 9:30:06 AM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: okkev68

That is exactly what I observed and my initial reaction when I first saw it this morning.


79 posted on 02/18/2025 10:57:07 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Fresh Wind

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CaOkTKfxu44


80 posted on 02/18/2025 11:21:35 AM PST by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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