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Bird feathers found in engines of crashed Jeju Air jet
BBC ^ | January 27, 2025 | Kelly Ng , Jean Mackenzie

Posted on 01/27/2025 7:45:52 AM PST by Red Badger

Investigators say they have found evidence of a bird strike on a passenger plane that crashed in South Korea in December, killing 179 people.

The feathers and blood stains on both engines of the Jeju Air plane were from the Baikal teal, a type of migratory duck that flies in large flocks, according to a preliminary investigation report published on Monday.

The inquiry into the crash - the deadliest on South Korean soil - will now focus on the role of the bird strike and a concrete structure at the end of the runway, which the plane crashed into.

The engines of the Boeing 737-800 will be torn down and the concrete structure will be examined further, the report said.

The Jeju Air plane took off from Bangkok in the morning of 29 December and was flying to Muan International Airport in the country's south-west.

At about 08:57 local time, three minutes after pilots made contact with the airport, the control tower advised the crew to be cautious of "bird activity".

At 08:59, the pilot reported that the plane had struck a bird and declared a mayday signal.

The pilot then requested permission to land from the opposite direction, during which it belly-landed without its landing gear deployed. It overran the runway and exploded after slamming into the concrete structure, the report said.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Travel
KEYWORDS: aviation
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To: Red Badger
If you have NO engines and no ability to reverse them upon landing, you will want your landing gear UP to create as much friction as possible upon landing. They definitely were coming in HOT because they had limited options to slow the aircraft. Probably would've been more effective to come in with aircraft nose pitched up for a tail drag but tragedy awaited them no matter what they tried. IN HINDSIGHT, A WATER LANDING WOULD'VE BEEN A BETTER OPTION!!!

That concrete wall at the end of the runway is criminal, in my opinion.

21 posted on 01/27/2025 8:32:55 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Red Badger

Who in their right mind would build a concrete wall at end of a runway, to suddenly stop runaway aircraft with failed landing gear?

On many steep roads they have sand filled exits for runaway trucks with failing brakes. Why there was no such facility when a concrete wall was built to suddenly end the runway?

This was as stupid as the nuclear power plant in Japan where they had placed cooling fluid circulating pumps on top of the reactors. When the nuclear reactor has a meltdown, the pumps get melted down first! That is the problem with engineers. Any one can design anything. In medical field no one can prescribe a simple aspirin without a MD degree.


22 posted on 01/27/2025 8:40:36 AM PST by Bobbyvotes (uantity )
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To: Bobbyvotes

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23 posted on 01/27/2025 8:43:41 AM PST by Bobbyvotes (I am in mid-80's and so do not try to change my opinions.)
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To: Red Badger

24 posted on 01/27/2025 8:43:43 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

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25 posted on 01/27/2025 8:45:03 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Everyone would probably have survived if there wasn’t a concrete wall.


26 posted on 01/27/2025 8:46:32 AM PST by Mastador1
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To: Mastador1

Most would have. That wall was a stupid idea...................


27 posted on 01/27/2025 8:48:14 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Saw a video that speculated smoke in the cabin after the bird strike.

The non deployment of the landing gear is a wtf moment


28 posted on 01/27/2025 8:52:36 AM PST by OldHarbor
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To: CivilWarBrewing
No, there is no reason to land with the landing gear up. You need the gear for braking, normal or emergency.

There is no emergency procedure that calls for an intentional gear up landing on a runway!

29 posted on 01/27/2025 8:59:50 AM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

FOD walk


30 posted on 01/27/2025 9:05:15 AM PST by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Basic distance isn’t even calculated using reverse thrust.


31 posted on 01/27/2025 9:06:51 AM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: Tom Tetroxide
I'm beginning to believe the theory that he tried to avoid the birds all together with a go-around, but unfortunately SHTF(literally) after gear/flap retraction. The brief go-around altitude/airspeed gain had him too high and too fast to complete a straight in, and with gear and flaps retracted...he felt he had no choice when both engines suddenly DOA'd(or mostly DOA), tried the 180, and he ran out of time/energy.

Goes without saying...easy to second guess his actions(worse comes to worse, put it in the water)...when it's not your arse in the seat/in the moment.

32 posted on 01/27/2025 9:09:23 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

We won’t know what really happened for a while, but there is no airline emergency procedure that calls for a water landing, when a runway is available. The concrete wall at the end is an entirely different story which needs to be explained.


33 posted on 01/27/2025 9:12:50 AM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: Red Badger

Were they on their final approach when the strike occurred? If so, why not just complete the landing? The go-around positioned the wall at the end of the runway. Had they just come in as originally planned, they would have flown over the wall.


34 posted on 01/27/2025 9:17:37 AM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: Bobbyvotes

The Japanese nuclear power plant failure was due to placement of the diesel tanks that were there to run the backup generators in case of power failure. They, unfortunately placed the fuel tanks outside the perimeter wall instead of inside as designed, and the tsunami washed them away. Without power the meltdown occurred.


35 posted on 01/27/2025 9:23:02 AM PST by 9422WMR
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To: Flag_This

Exactly, there are many, many questions to be answered. The entire scenario is very bizarre, even if they had a birdstrike.


36 posted on 01/27/2025 9:25:55 AM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: al baby

It sounds like you might be Navy. Just curious...how often do they do that? Daily? More than once a day?


37 posted on 01/27/2025 9:31:25 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Airflow for one.

Sedond the mesh would be destroyed by a hit and also go into the engine.


38 posted on 01/27/2025 9:38:11 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Exactly, on both counts plus extra drag.


39 posted on 01/27/2025 9:40:55 AM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: 9422WMR

It has been a while but I remember some vital components were mounted on top of the nuclear reactor containment.


40 posted on 01/27/2025 10:07:15 AM PST by Bobbyvotes (I am in mid-80's and so do not try to change my opinions.)
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