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Bird feathers found in engines of crashed Jeju Air jet
BBC ^ | January 27, 2025 | Kelly Ng , Jean Mackenzie

Posted on 01/27/2025 7:45:52 AM PST by Red Badger

Investigators say they have found evidence of a bird strike on a passenger plane that crashed in South Korea in December, killing 179 people.

The feathers and blood stains on both engines of the Jeju Air plane were from the Baikal teal, a type of migratory duck that flies in large flocks, according to a preliminary investigation report published on Monday.

The inquiry into the crash - the deadliest on South Korean soil - will now focus on the role of the bird strike and a concrete structure at the end of the runway, which the plane crashed into.

The engines of the Boeing 737-800 will be torn down and the concrete structure will be examined further, the report said.

The Jeju Air plane took off from Bangkok in the morning of 29 December and was flying to Muan International Airport in the country's south-west.

At about 08:57 local time, three minutes after pilots made contact with the airport, the control tower advised the crew to be cautious of "bird activity".

At 08:59, the pilot reported that the plane had struck a bird and declared a mayday signal.

The pilot then requested permission to land from the opposite direction, during which it belly-landed without its landing gear deployed. It overran the runway and exploded after slamming into the concrete structure, the report said.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Travel
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1 posted on 01/27/2025 7:45:52 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: 04-Bravo; 1FASTGLOCK45; 1stFreedom; 2ndDivisionVet; 2sheds; 60Gunner; 6AL-4V; A.A. Cunningham; ...

AVIATION PING!......................


2 posted on 01/27/2025 7:46:22 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

There’s a lot that Beeb is not reporting.

What’s South Korea hiding?

And why is the Beeb shilling for whomever is hiding it?


3 posted on 01/27/2025 7:49:36 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: Red Badger

https://www.waterfowl.org.uk/wildfowl/true-ducks/baikal-teal/


4 posted on 01/27/2025 7:51:53 AM PST by GaltAdonis ( )
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To: Red Badger
I still have not gotten a definitive answer on whether or not the aircraft was in landing configuration(gear down/at least partial flaps)before he initiated the go-around. Lots of youtube videos on this from experienced pilots...many with different conclusions. Of course without those 4 minutes of data/voice information the only information would have to come from eyewitnesses/home camera footage.

Talk about lining up holes in the swiss cheese.

Also, didn't I read some administrator/other committed suicide?

5 posted on 01/27/2025 7:56:39 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: Red Badger
Is there evidence that one,or both,engines were malfunctioning...or shut down? And why was the landing gear up? Hopefully the black boxes will show exactly what happened.

I also hope that the evidence shows that Boeing wasn't to blame.IIRC that's what Korean officials were saying at one point.

6 posted on 01/27/2025 7:56:41 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: mewzilla

The youtube blancolirio channel reported that no FDR or CVR data is availible for the last 4 minutes of the flight. Apparently this is an older 737 and the data recorder system was not upgraded to operate on emergency battery backup in the case of total power failure.


7 posted on 01/27/2025 7:57:39 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: mewzilla

My girlfriend is Korean-American. She’s talked about “shame” being a huge part of the culture.”Saving face” is important to Koreans. Also,there’s been huge political turmoil in Korea in recent weeks.


8 posted on 01/27/2025 7:59:52 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: Red Badger

“Authorities earlier said that flight data and cockpit voice recorders from the plane stopped recording about four minutes before the disaster.”
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Really? My understanding is that this would be VERY unusual. And no mention of the pilots failing to lower the landing gear despite the fact that it could be done manually if necessary.


9 posted on 01/27/2025 8:00:21 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: Red Badger

No kidding!!!???
After all this time, the unstupid is finally revealed. D’uh!!!


10 posted on 01/27/2025 8:00:46 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Just my opinion, but I guess the pilots were trying to go around is why the gear was up..............


11 posted on 01/27/2025 8:05:50 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Why can’t jet planes put some kind of
a mesh screen over the intakes?


12 posted on 01/27/2025 8:17:25 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Imagine a bird hitting that mesh at 4-6 hundred miles an hour.

it would definitely make the chunks smaller, but same mass.

13 posted on 01/27/2025 8:20:54 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce.)
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To: Red Badger

IIRC the black boxes were sent to the US.One would expect that examining them will show us what did...and didn’t...happen.


14 posted on 01/27/2025 8:21:10 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: Repeal The 17th

It would get sucked in and that would be the end of that.............


15 posted on 01/27/2025 8:22:17 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: going hot
I love to watch those youtube videos filmed on an aircraft carrier's flight deck. One thing they do on the flight deck is periodically (don't know how often) they gather a lot of crew members and their job is to walk slowly along the flight deck from one end to the other and look doe even the tiniest bits of debris. Things like little screws,washers and other pieces of metal.

The logic is that even a tiny piece of metal can destroy a ten million dollar jet engine on takeoff and even cause the plane to crash.

16 posted on 01/27/2025 8:27:03 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Does it really matter what it was before the go around? Normally if you do a go around you are going to get the gear up and clean up the flaps. If you look at the landing videos you can see that the aircraft was in the clean configuration (no landing gear or flaps) at touchdown on the runway.

The reason those four minutes are missing is probably due to the bird strikes on both engines that shut both down and thus the electrical power generators. The 737s still have a cable system for actuating the flaps, elevator, and rudder.

The pilots had very, very little time to get through any checklists to the point that they didn’t manually deploy landing gear, which you can do in a 737.

When the pilot brought the aircraft down to the runway it floated about the runway a bit due to ground effect until reaching nearly half way down the runway and crashed into the berm.


17 posted on 01/27/2025 8:28:11 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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To: mewzilla

Probably some protected bird or species.


18 posted on 01/27/2025 8:30:11 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT back in 2006)
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To: Gay State Conservative

There’s been at least one alleged suicide of a former official who was in charge when that antenna setup was installed.

The go around is what is still got me scratching my head.

And why ATC didn’t alert the crew to the issues with the antenna set up.


19 posted on 01/27/2025 8:30:18 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: George from New England

It’s a, I forget the term, place where migratory fowl nest.

Dumb place to site an airport.

That said, I wouldn’t take anything coming out of SK as gospel.

This wouldn’t be the first mass casualty event where the government has been fast and loose with the truth.


20 posted on 01/27/2025 8:32:54 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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