Posted on 01/27/2025 6:50:46 AM PST by Red Badger
Key Points
* U.S. technology firms like Nvidia plunged, as Chinese startup DeepSeek sparked concerns over competitiveness in AI and America’s lead in the sector, triggering a global sell-off.
* DeepSeek launched a free, open-source large language model in late December, claiming it was developed in just two months at a cost of under $6 million.
* These developments have bolstered questions about the large amounts of money big tech companies have been investing in artificial intelligence models and data centers.
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Nvidia and other U.S. technology firms plunged on Monday, part of a global sell-off as Chinese startup DeepSeek sparked concerns over competitiveness in artificial intelligence and America’s leadership in the sector.
Nvidia, the chip designer who has been a major beneficiary of the AI hype, slid around 11%. With that, the megacap tech stock was on track to notch its worst day since March 2020.
Other AI trades like Micron and Arm Holdings dropped more than 8% and 9%, respectively. Broadcom and Advanced Micro Devices lost more than 14% and 5%, respectively.
Constellation Energy and Vistra , two of the best-known derivative plays tied to the power buildout for AI, plummeted about more than 12% and 19%, respectively.
International markets also felt the impacts. Netherlands-based chip companies ASML and ASM International both pulled back sharply in European trading. In Asia, Japanese chip-related stocks including Advantest and Tokyo Electron were broadly lower.
DeepSeek launched a free, open-source large language model in late December, claiming it was developed in just two months at a cost of under $6 million — a much smaller expense than the one called for by Western counterparts. Last week, the company released a reasoning model that also reportedly outperformed OpenAI’s latest in many third-party tests.
In a social media post, Marc Andreesen called DeepSeek’s product “one of the most amazing and impressive breakthroughs I’ve ever seen” and a “profound gift to the world.” The Andreessen Horowitz cofounder recently gained notoriety for his support of President Donald Trump.
These developments have stoked concerns about the amount of money big tech companies have been investing in AI models and data centers, and raised alarm that the U.S. is not leading the sector as much as previously believed.
“DeepSeek clearly doesn’t have access to as much compute as U.S. hyperscalers and somehow managed to develop a model that appears highly competitive,” said Srini Pajjuri, semiconductor analyst at Raymond James, in a Monday note.
Pajjuri said DeepSeek could “drive even more urgency among U.S. hyperscalers,” a group of large computing infrastructure players like Amazon and Microsoft . Specifically, the analyst said these companies can leverage their advantage from access to graphics processing units to set themselves apart from cheaper options.
GPUs are a key part of the infrastructure required to train huge AI models. Nvidia is the market leader in GPUs.
The cost of computing has become a key topic of conversation following the DeepSeek news, according to Citi analysts.
While the dominance of U.S. companies on the most advanced AI models may be threatened, they said, a key barrier for competitors is access to the best chips. Because of this, leading AI companies likely won’t move away from the more-advanced GPUs, the analysts said.
Last week’s announcement of the $500 billion Stargate AI project is a “nod to the need for advanced chips,” they added.
To be sure, Bernstein analysts expressed doubt over whether the DeepSeek tool was actually built for less than $6 million. They questioned if that figure left out other costs from prior research and experiments to get the technology to where it is today.
Despite stressing that DeepSeek’s models “look fantastic,” the team said they shouldn’t be thought of as “miracles.” And panic about the “death-knell of the AI infrastructure complex as we know it,” the Bernstein analysts said, was “overblown.”
It’s not nicknamed ‘LOST WAGES’ for nothing!...............
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Yeah.
Facebook steals your data and they hate America as much as the Chicoms do.
“That is hilarious. NVDA 1 year total return is 132%!”
I’ve invested about $1300 in Nvidia since 2018. It’s now worth about $40,000 today. I can take a bad day on the market.
Wonder if this turns out to be real or cold fusion. If it is real it will help AI developers refine their approaches bigly.
Like Salvage 1. Those guys showed how a junk dealer could build a rocket out of spare parts and get the rover back from the moon!
Overblown is probably the best description.
bkmk
Buying opportunity, I don’t think NVIDIA is going anywhere anytime soon.
If you’re investing in something you don’t understand, you’re just gambling.
I don’t speculate on individual stocks. I invest and hold market index funds. If one saves and invests a healthy chunk of their income in the broader market and let it compound over many, many years they can become set for retirement and free.
Chyna lies.
Let’s hear from Elon…
AAPL is up, earnings come out on the 30th after market close, I suspect there will be a post-earnings burnoff in the stock, unless there’s an insanely large beat in there.
American AI, foreign AI, it makes no difference.
They will join together like in The Forbin Project and then we are all screwed.............
Hi Red Badger, thanks for the ping!
Yeah, they’ll read all the FR threads, including the deleted ones.
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