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Further evidence of how England has lost its way.
1 posted on 12/29/2024 5:06:08 PM PST by Robwin
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The wuss-i-fication of the University of Exeter. Hopefully, it’s not contagious.


2 posted on 12/29/2024 5:09:07 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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The ninth grade boys LOVED these when I taught them. Distressing content is what they live for

When Christopher Nolan puts this out on film I hope he doesn’t put porn in it like he did with Oppenheimer. Ugh


3 posted on 12/29/2024 5:12:21 PM PST by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: Robwin

I’ve read the Iliad and the Odyssey.
It does not need a trigger warning.


4 posted on 12/29/2024 5:13:28 PM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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“Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey hit with trigger warnings by university”

They’re panicking over nothing. It’s next to impossible for (relatively few) guys in college to be drawn-in by hot babes, as there’s basically nothing but FEMINISTS left in all but a few universities. So, no need for a ‘trigger warning’.


5 posted on 12/29/2024 5:13:48 PM PST by BobL
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I was traumatized by the “The Grinch Who Stole Christmas. The Grinch was born with a heart defect of a small size. This organ shaming just won’t do.


6 posted on 12/29/2024 5:15:27 PM PST by BipolarBob (As it was in the days of Noah they were feasting, drinking egg nog and celebrating Christmas.)
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the whole story is one huge journey, beset along the way, by the gods.

“What? DidjathinkitsgonnabeaGreyhoundbusride?”

‘the man’ angered the gods!


8 posted on 12/29/2024 5:15:58 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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Listening to The Odyssey on my commute.

Plenty of times to think, weren’t you a lot of murderous, lecherous, looting, raping, prideful bastards, granting piety to gods not much better than yourselves. But brave.

Agammemnon got what was coming to him.

Trigger warnings? I didn’t need trigger warnings when I was twelve.


10 posted on 12/29/2024 5:25:48 PM PST by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..we)
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The thing that shocked me in the Odyssey, when I read the adult version:

Odysseus kills the suitors of his wife. He makes the maids who had sex with them scrub the blood from the floor, and then he hangs them from the rafters of the hall - pulling them up to slowly strangle.

Did they have much choice about sex? Did they mock Penelope and make her life a misery? One of them betrayed her unraveling the weaving.

But Oddyseus - he who took women captive, who spent a year in Circe’s bed and seven in Calypso’s, he kills them, and is lovingly welcomed by chaste Penelope.

Even Helen is forgiven, the wise and wonderful wife of Menelaus. She is the daughter of Zeus after all - the divine not bound by sexual morality, not like the daughters of men.


14 posted on 12/29/2024 5:43:50 PM PST by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..we)
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“An his armor clanged on him” does cause stress in the faint heart class. Same for mentions of “Black blood” and where “the arrow came out below his armor” or “came out through the cheek bone.”

I read the Odyssey in High School, 1961. It did more to get me interested in reading than all the D-U-L-L English literature we were required to read. Thankfully the CAPTAIN BLOOD TRILOGY saved my day. Then The Beau Geste Trilogy and BEAT TO QUARTERS trilogy.


17 posted on 12/29/2024 6:06:21 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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It’s much much better in the original Greek because there is play on words, onomatopoeia, word rhythm tata-ta-ta etc.... this is all lost in translation. It’s like translating a rap song into
Latin.


20 posted on 12/29/2024 6:22:05 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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I think I was in middle school (junior high) when I read the Iliad and the Odyssey.


21 posted on 12/29/2024 6:25:36 PM PST by ChessExpert (The Democratic party must be destroyed.)
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It’s ironic because all the wengy-libs have no idea how many times hollywood has lifted ideas from the Blind Bard for their favorite movies. We are devolving, not evolving.


23 posted on 12/29/2024 6:32:07 PM PST by Arkady
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Wow! I hope they don't read Euripides' Medea!
24 posted on 12/29/2024 6:47:00 PM PST by Savage Beast (Fight! Fight! Fight! God Bless America! Trump won because good TRiUMPhed over evil.)
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To: Robwin

I read them to my kids when they were 7-8.

“Sing, oh Goddess...”

I did edit the very bloody bits.

It worked. One kid surprised me by citing Runciman in HS. I had no idea that he was reading THAT.
Another graduated summa cum laude out of UC.
None had to actually study in school, that wasn’t math.


25 posted on 12/29/2024 6:48:08 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Ay, por favor-esta mierda otra vez? Grow up-it is classical literature, not a f’in nursery rhyme...

My mom bought “Bulfinche’s Mythology”-all 3 books-for me to learn the Classics from when I was 11 years old, and that was not really unusual for a parent who happened to be a teacher of English and literature-I was interested enough to check other works of Homer and other classical authors at the public library in town. I still like the classics and i was never triggered or upset otherwise by the violence in those tales-life was brutal at that time in history, and that is reflected in the literature-duh. Hubby and I allowed our cub to start reading those stories at 12, but by then, people thought we were just being weird, or raising a future intellectual snob...


35 posted on 12/29/2024 7:27:26 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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There was a young woman of Exeter, so pretty men craned their necks at ‘er........


36 posted on 12/29/2024 7:31:37 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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Simple. Replace all college lit programs with dross selections only from Oprah’s Book Club. It’s what they’re heading for eventually.


43 posted on 12/29/2024 10:21:51 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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We need vomit warnings before reading headlines about trigger warnings.

Barf alerts help!


45 posted on 12/30/2024 4:56:53 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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England? How about America?

I started watching the Netflix series Troy that is a recounting of the Iliad. It was going very well until Hercules.

Hercules was introduced as a fantastic warrior, the son of Zeus, the son of God. Hercules was played by a full-fledged unmistakable, racist actor ........ an wide nosed, big lipped Negro.


49 posted on 12/30/2024 5:24:53 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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Letting that big horse through the gate was entirely too metaphorical for some readers.


56 posted on 01/15/2025 5:07:46 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Ukraine, Russia, Iran, and Israel all pretty much deserve one another.)
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