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Elon Musk Announces Tesla's NEW Aluminum-ion Super Battery with 15-min Charging
www.youtube.com ^ | November 23, 2024 | Beyond Discovery

Posted on 12/03/2024 4:51:05 PM PST by Jonty30

Elon Musk Announces Tesla's NEW Aluminum-ion Super Battery with 15-min Charging

Elon Musk’s latest announcement could change everything about electric vehicles. Tesla is rolling out an all-new aluminum-ion battery that promises to be a game-changer, boasting rapid 15-minute charging times. The technology has been years in the making, but it could lead to a future where Elon Musk is quite literally, on top of the world. Imagine charging your electric car in just 15 minutes—Elon Musk's latest breakthrough could make it a reality and revolutionize the future of transportation as we know it. Curious to know how this innovation could reshape the EV landscape? Let’s dive into the details.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: bfgix; ecars; elonmusk; evbattery; spacex; starlink; superbattery; tesla; tsla
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To: TomServo

Imagine the odds that f finding a charger capable of charging the battery in the 15 minutes, now imagine how h odds of the charger actually being functional.


101 posted on 12/03/2024 8:56:49 PM PST by Mastador1
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To: catnipman
here’s the real skinny on the Boring Company, which is no longer owned by Musk:

Where did you see this. According to the Wikipedia link you posted,

In early 2018, the Boring Company was spun out from SpaceX and into a separate corporate entity.[13] Somewhat less than 10% of equity was given to early employees, and over 90% to Elon Musk.

102 posted on 12/03/2024 8:59:35 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Jonty30

I can imagine it alright. I imagine the power grid going down across the country if very many of these were purchased. A power surge of epic proportions.


103 posted on 12/04/2024 12:35:35 AM PST by Revel
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To: armydoc

True. But what is it with this place where people used to see the big picture. The power grid could not begin to handle a large number of these. Several hundred Amps each I would guess.


104 posted on 12/04/2024 12:42:42 AM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

Also, does anyone have the power amperage needed in their electrical panel to handle the recharge demand? I can imagine a separate drop may also be needed. With that upgrade, you could pay for a lot of gasoline.


105 posted on 12/04/2024 12:54:29 AM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Blueflag; armydoc

Yeah. How many people read this article and think “Great! I can plug it into my existing electrical system and be on my way in 15 minutes”?


106 posted on 12/04/2024 1:30:08 AM PST by raybbr (The left is a poison on society. There is no antidote. Running its course will be painful. You )
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To: Robert DeLong

Trump needs to get Yucca Mountain up and running.


107 posted on 12/04/2024 1:46:58 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Robert DeLong

It’s not expensive. We spend a fortune not doing it. Antinuclear is the original lawfare.


108 posted on 12/04/2024 2:11:25 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Brian Griffin; Red Badger; SunkenCiv; Kaslin; BenLurkin; NicknamedBob

Sounds like the chemistry can now work - in a lab, under lab QA conditions of cleanliness, temperature, controlled charge rates, vibration, shocks, and laboratory assembly and construction accuracy.

Let us applaud strongly the breakthrough.
Let us also wait for a few years of on-road service conditions and daily use by industry and consumers.
Industrial forklift recharging users?


109 posted on 12/04/2024 2:40:15 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I used to put my spent fuel rids in the compost bin out back. Now Iput them in the recycle bin that gets picked up every week...


110 posted on 12/04/2024 2:43:30 AM PST by beaware (It's the seriousness of the Charge... and the Intent...)
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To: Robert A Cook PE; 04-Bravo; 1FASTGLOCK45; 1stFreedom; 2ndDivisionVet; 2sheds; 60Gunner; 6AL-4V; ...

Ping!...................


111 posted on 12/04/2024 5:08:39 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Robert DeLong
ridding spent nuclear fuel cells is becoming an increasingly expensive too

All of which disappears when we get a President man enough to rescind the execrable Jimmy Carter's ban on reprocessing "spent" fuel.

112 posted on 12/04/2024 5:11:48 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: desertsolitaire

“Can’t we reprocess spent fuel rods into plutonium with breeder reactors? And modernize our nuclear arsenal at the same time?”

Yes we can reprocess if we have the will and $20 billion to build a la Hague sized plant. That would turn spent fuel that’s 96% still fuel back into fuel getting 100 times as much energy out of it with multiple reprocessing passes. Thousands of years worth of power with just the uranium already mined in the USA right now just sitting in storage casks and depleted uranium canisters. Fast reactors and reprocessing are the only way for our species to keep our standards of living when not if liquid hydrocarbons run short, they will never run out because they will be too expensive to use for anything other than high value products llike medications and carbon fiber composites ect.

As for nuclear weapons spent fuel is reactor grade PU it has way too much PU240/242 to be used as weapons grades. Even though PUREX process yields 99.9% pure PU it’s a mix of 239/240/242 and that’s crap for making it go boom. The world nuclear powers put weapons grade into power reactors specifically to make it not weapons grade. It’s devilishly hard to separate isotopes of the same element especially when they are radioactive and chemically toxic PU is nasty stuff not only radioactive it is as chemically toxic as nerve gas when ingested or inhaled. You need vapor to do isotopic separation be that pure metal vapor via very high temps or some kind of halide metal compound again at 1000+C then you need cyclotron or laser ion or mass spectrometry to get chemically identical but isotopic mass difference to separate and you need at least 94% 239 in your final mix to barely be weapons grade. So you could but it would be a Manhattan level project billion and billions of dollars. It’s much easier to just put uranium in a heavy water reactor or a graphite mmoderated one and burn it for six months or less this makes tons of 239 with little 240 and virtually no 242 since the last two only happen after 239 is formed and than it captures two or more neutrons. The USA used the graphite method and still does, India China and Pakistan used the heavy water way no one has ever used reactor grade then isotopic enrichment way.


113 posted on 12/04/2024 5:26:13 AM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath

Thank you for the expertise.


114 posted on 12/04/2024 5:37:34 AM PST by desertsolitaire ( Lee Harvey Oswald and the Bands final performance)
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To: Jonty30

Its been clear that lithium is dead technology walking. Innovative in its time but totally unacceptable for the intended purpose of vehicle energizing. Expensive, environmentally disastrous, dangerous and frustratingly inefficient. Goodbye lithium.


115 posted on 12/04/2024 5:49:49 AM PST by anton
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To: NorthMountain

Okay, so you can reprocess the spent fuel cells. That is good to know, thanks for that information. What was the reason for not doing so before? If you know that answer. 🙂👍


116 posted on 12/04/2024 5:57:12 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
You can get plutonium. Plutonium can make nuclear bombs. Nuclear bombs are yucky. If we don't get plutonium, no one else will.

Like many Carter policies, they only make sense if you ignore human nature.

117 posted on 12/04/2024 6:11:35 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: anton

Lithium set the base tech knowledge for all other forms of ion battery. Lithium was chosen because it is the most reactive single valent ion. There are better ions to use once you have the basic ion tech down. Sodium is a direct 1+ electron replacement with thousands of times more abundance it’s key advantage. Calcium and magnesium up the game with both being 2+ electron ion with calcium & magnesium being virtually unlimited in supply it’s literally the rocks we stand on in limestone, and dolomite being magnesium calcium carbonate rocks. Aluminum is a 3+ ion this is the way, once you can use aluminum you have triple the energy density on a per atom basis. Aluminum is the third most abundant element in the earth’s crust it’s 8% of it by mass. Aluminum is also infinitely recyclable and 75% of all aluminum ever mined is still in use.

Aluminum is the future with aluminum graphene cells being the holy grail. DOD subverting ALgr cells for drones and other classified uses. These cells have 60C+ charge rates that’s one minute ffrom 0 to 100% and are solid state cells so they cannot burn any more than aluminum foil could. Which is used as an anode it’s just aluminum foil treated to remove the AlO3 layer. Graphene is Gucci expensive but a number of groups have got processes to make it in bulk for reasonable prices. University of Queensland has a process to make it from methane by the tonne they too as ae doing AlGr cells, 10000+ full cycles, 60C charge rates, semi solid state, cannot burn, and 100% recyclable like every other aluminum product. Once Al-ion and ALgr cells take over lithium is dead. Thanks for making the modern world possible lithium but your job is done soon.


118 posted on 12/04/2024 6:15:28 AM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Carter was an idiot, no current nuclear power used reprocessing of commercial reactors fuel to make a weapon. Commercial spent fuel is loaded with PU240/242 it makes to many spontaneous neutrons even with multi point implosion design you always get a fizzle, forget two point or linear implosion. You have to not only reprocess tI get the PU you then need laser or mass spectrometry or cyclotrons to get the PU239 and leave all the PU240/242 behind. No one has ever done it and won’t it’s easier to just put natural uranium into a heavy water reactor or graphite moderated one burn it six months and leach the PU out with nitric acid. This is how every nuclear power has done it. Again Carter was a traitor and a moron. I hope the Don just signs an EO saying his EO is overturned and then calls on the house to fund a La Hague sized plant for the USA. It will be a ten year build out but worth it to not have to beg France or Russia for fuel for fast reactors we will desperately need in a couple decades.


119 posted on 12/04/2024 6:23:01 AM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath

Two points:

Aluminum isn’t mined. Bauxite is mined.

Have you ever seen aluminum on fire? I have. Not a good time.


120 posted on 12/04/2024 6:24:31 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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