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Hurricane misinformation is coming at a dangerous time
Los Angeles Times ^ | 10/23/2024 3 AM PT | Andra Garner

Posted on 10/24/2024 5:13:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

With about six weeks remaining in this year’s Atlantic hurricane season, we’ve already experienced multiple historic storms, vividly illustrating that as humans have warmed the planet, we have also made it more dangerous.

Beryl became a Category 5 hurricane in July, the earliest in the calendar year that any Atlantic hurricane on record has reached that magnitude; Helene yielded catastrophic flooding and damage from Florida to western North Carolina; Kirk traversed the Atlantic to bring damaging rain and winds to France; Milton — one of the fastest-intensifying storms on record — caused damage across Florida; and Oscar surprised forecasters this weekend by quickly becoming a hurricane and dumping flooding rains in the Caribbean. The 2024 Atlantic hurricane season has made it abundantly clear that the consequences of climate change are here.

This hurricane season has also amplified another disturbing trend: misinformation about catastrophic weather extremes. For example, social media users have falsely claimed that Hurricanes Helene and Milton were created or steered by human technology. Such lies generate mistrust and anger, which are too often directed at meteorologists who work to save lives by providing accurate scientific forecasts warning those in harm’s way to evacuate.

Technology capable of creating or steering hurricanes does not exist outside of science fiction, or perhaps the lairs of cartoon villains. Humans shape extreme weather in another way: When we burn fossil fuels such as oil and gas, we release heat-trapping greenhouse gases that act as a blanket abnormally warming our planet. Scientists know that this human-caused warming is the real reason hurricanes such as Helene and Milton have become more dangerous.

This is where we need to focus our conversation — on understanding how climate change is...

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Such lies generate mistrust and anger, which are too often directed at meteorologists who work to save lives by providing accurate scientific forecasts warning those in harm’s way to evacuate.

Indirection.

Meteorologists have nothing to do with HAARP or cloud-seeding and do not try to control weather.

The US feral government and military, however...

1 posted on 10/24/2024 5:13:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
When we burn fossil fuels such as oil and gas, we release heat-trapping greenhouse gases that act as a blanket abnormally warming our planet. Scientists know that this human-caused warming is the real reason hurricanes such as Helene and Milton have become more dangerous.

This is false. Warming the planet does not produce more storms or stronger storms.

The global climate models generally place more warming nearer to the poles, and less in the tropics. It is the heat differential between the poles and the tropics which generate storms. The lower the temperature differential, the number of fronts decline as do the number of storms. Moreover, as the intensity of fronts decline, the intensity of storms decline.

2 posted on 10/24/2024 5:19:22 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hey Andra, stop taxing me for climate change and laundering it through Ukraine.

Let us start there.


3 posted on 10/24/2024 5:20:51 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

LAT = FOS.

Yet again.


4 posted on 10/24/2024 5:21:05 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain
The global climate models generally place more warming nearer to the poles, and less in the tropics. It is the heat differential between the poles and the tropics which generate storms. The lower the temperature differential, the number of fronts decline as do the number of storms. Moreover, as the intensity of fronts decline, the intensity of storms decline.

Exactly.

Thanks for posting that.

Stuff like this BS article only get traction because people have NO clue what drives the weather.

5 posted on 10/24/2024 5:23:43 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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They play fast and loose with thermodynamics for some of their models.
The most basic “from hot yo cold it flows dammit” still applies in real life but some of their models do “Maxwell’s Demon”.


6 posted on 10/24/2024 5:23:48 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

LAT = FOS.

Yet again.


7 posted on 10/24/2024 5:24:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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“multiple historic storms, vividly illustrating that as humans have warmed the planet”
Um ...excuse me but that is bullshit. The problem is that magnitudes more people are now in the way of common hurricanes in these places.
Ft Myers population 1900 - 575
Ft Myers now- 834,573


8 posted on 10/24/2024 5:30:01 PM PDT by The Sentient Sheep
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In a rational reasonable world, we’d be discussing the effects of the 19,000 underwater volcanoes and the 2022 Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai eruption. (5x power of atomic bomb, water vapor into the stratosphere, the effects will ge felt for a decade!). I find that more interesting but I guess you can’t fleece the public with natural occurrences.


9 posted on 10/24/2024 5:31:05 PM PDT by griswold3 ( Robespierre and Pol Pot were “unburdened by what has been” Harris the "Year Zero")
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To: eyedigress

Well said.


10 posted on 10/24/2024 5:31:37 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: metmom

You are correct.


11 posted on 10/24/2024 5:32:56 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: metmom; marktwain
Personally, I believe some of the conspiracists have lost the plot.

That said, here are a few reasons why we feel the weather-media et al are full of it:


12 posted on 10/24/2024 5:33:41 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What BS, as usual.


13 posted on 10/24/2024 5:36:26 PM PDT by Eli Kopter
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To: eyedigress

Andra, stop taxing us for climate change and laundering it through the Ukraine.

Let us start there.


14 posted on 10/24/2024 5:42:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have no shortage of so-called experts! America has the most useless aristocrats in history!)
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To: The Sentient Sheep

Exactly.🤔


15 posted on 10/24/2024 5:42:36 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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Scientists know that this human-caused warming is the real reason hurricanes such as Helene and Milton have become more dangerous.

The article complains about misinformation and then gives us misinformation.

16 posted on 10/24/2024 6:06:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Associated Press. Ergo, worthless propaganda.


17 posted on 10/24/2024 6:07:45 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us )
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“vividly illustrating that as humans have warmed the planet, we have also made it more dangerous.”
Correlation is not causation. As the planet has warmed slightly in the last 100 years, life expectancy has increased by 20 years, the world population has doubled, and per capita income has increased by 500 percent. 80 years ago slavery existed in China (see The Long March by Harrison Salisbury). China burns 9 times as much coal as the US. Chine emits double the CO2 as the US. Global tropical cyclone activity shows no trend for 100 years. There are more Americans killed by Harris’ illegal immigrants than by hurricanes.


18 posted on 10/24/2024 6:11:06 PM PDT by brookwood (51 Intelligence Agents say Russia Is Trying To Influence The 2024 Election)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Currently on the National hurricane site: 7day
19 posted on 10/24/2024 6:18:07 PM PDT by dynachrome (Auslander Raus!)
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vividly illustrating that as humans have warmed the planet

They said, without evidence...

20 posted on 10/24/2024 6:43:39 PM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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