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Firefighter threatened with arrest in NC after using own helicopter to rescue hurricane victims as Biden-Harris admin restricts private flights, drones over affected areas
Post Millennial ^ | October 03, 2024 | Hannah Nightingale

Posted on 10/03/2024 8:05:32 AM PDT by Red Badger

A South Carolina volunteer firefighter was threatened with arrest after he used his own helicopter to assist with rescue efforts in western North Carolina following Hurricane Helene’s devastating impact on the area. This comes as the Biden-Harris administration's Department of Transportation has set up a no-fly zone for drones in the area, and issued a temporary no-fly zone for private flights.

Jordan Seidhom told Queen City News that when he woke up on Saturday, he saw a post on Facebook regarding a family stranded in Banner Elk, North Carolina. After researching the mountains where the family was located on his mapping software and finding a place to land, he loaded his helicopter with bottled water and food and headed toward the town.

"I thought, I have a helicopter, maybe I can help," Seidhom, who is also the former head of the Chesterfield County Sheriff’s Office narcotics unit, said. Seidhom’s son, a high school junior, also went with him, both men being volunteer firefighters with the Sandhills Volunteer Fire Department in Pageland, South Carolina. As a pilot, Seidhom has logged nearly 1,400 flight hours.

Seidhom contacted the Charlotte-Douglas International Airport’s Air Traffic Control tower for clearance to fly over the airport. Once that was given, he flew over and towards the mountains by way of Lake Lure. Landing next at the nearest airport in the Lake Lure area, Seidhom spoke with law enforcement and first responders to coordinate communications channels and find out where help was needed. He lifted off in the direction of Black Mountain, making four rescues.

The father and son woke up on Sunday morning after sleeping in a pilot lounge at a nearby airport to social media and text messages as well as phone calls from people pleading for help. Seidhom and his son made the decision to go back out on Sunday to assist in recovery efforts, heading through the mountain gap in Lake Lure.

“As we were flying by, my son actually spotted a lady waving for help. And I asked him, I said, ‘Hey, is she waving for help or she just waving?’ He said, ‘No, I think she’s waving for help.’”

They checked for power lines and trees that may be in the way, and landed on the couple’s destroyed driveway. After coming up with a gameplan, Seidhom loaded the wife into the helicopter and left his son there, fearing placing too much weight on the deteriorating driveway. "I originally left my son, copilot, on the side of the mountain. It was kind of unstable, so I didn’t want to put more weight on the helicopter to lift back off. So, I left my son with the other victim. And I was just going to take one person down at the time," Seidhom said.

He landed after a three-minute flight at a parking lot at Boys Camp Road and Memorial Highway. “Once we landed where emergency personnel were, I was met by a fire chief or maybe a captain, and he asked me who I was. I told him who I was, who I was with, just a local volunteer,” Seidhom said. The man was from an out-of-state fire department who’d traveled to North Carolina to assist in the rescue efforts, Seidhom said.

After talking with the official about his background, Seidhom said “in the middle of the whole conversation and them blocking the road off, I was greeted by the – at that time I didn’t know – but the Lake Lure fire chief, or assistant chief, maybe. And he shut down the whole operation.”

Seidhom said the Lake Lure official asked who he was, and Seidhom gave him the same information he had given the out-of-state fire official. "His response was, if you have that kind of experience, you should know that you should be coordinating with us. And I said, I’ve been coordinating with everybody as I’ve been here just the day before, speaking with local law enforcement, other rescue personnel."

The official ordered Seidhom to leave and not come back. However, Seidhom’s son and the woman’s husband were still stranded.

“If that’s what you want us to do, we’ll leave no issue. And I explained to him that I left my son on the side of the mountain, and I left another victim. I was going to go back and bring them, it was already set up for the landing spot and then I would get out of his area. He told me I wasn’t going to go back up the mountain to get them, I was going to leave them there.”

When asked for a specific reason he was ordering the stop of the rescue effort, the official said "you’re interfering with my operation." Seidhom said that the official told him to report to Rutherford County Airport and wait for the Federal Aviation Administration to meet with him.

“I’m going back and getting my copilot. He said, ‘If you turn around and go back up the mountain, you’re going to be arrested.’ I said, ‘Well, sir, I’m going back to get my copilot, I don’t know what to tell you.'” The official then called over two officers and again threatened arrest.

“At that point, I had to make a decision. I have a victim, I have my son, and I politely asked the officers, told him the situation again, explained everything, told them who I’d been coordinating with, and I said, ‘Hey if I go back up and get this victim and bring him down to this landing spot that other emergency personnel have designated, am I going to be arrested? And the officers’ response was, ‘Man, I really don’t know what to do in this situation.'"

The out-of-state fire chief and captain spoke with Seidhom before he took off, and he recalled them as saying, "Hey, man, we can’t tell you to go get the victim. We can’t even ask you to go get the victim, but we can tell you if you come back with the victim, we’ll have you a designated landing spot and we’ll make sure they don’t come over here."

Seidhom got back into his helicopter and took off in the direction of his son and the rescued woman’s husband. When he arrived he explained what happened at the airport. He picked up his son but had to leave the husband behind on the mountain side. The father and son reported to the airport, but FAA officials never came. "I did leave the Rutherford Airport. I knew at that point he had no jurisdiction, I was legal in what I was doing, and I was following all FAA guidelines and airspace guidelines. I was on private property."

Seidhom said that within a half hour of the threat of arrest, a Temporary Flight Restriction was set up over the Lake Lure gap, where he had been conducting rescue efforts. The father and son flew home, calling off their efforts. On Monday though, that temporary restriction was lifted, and Seidhom threw food and water into his helicopter and headed back to Lake Lure and joined up with the Carolina Emergency Response Team, which has called for private helicopters to help in efforts.

A no-fly zone for drones have been set up in multiple areas of North Carolina by the FAA. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg said that temporary flight restrictions have been set up for drones and flights to allow for "flights or drone activity that might be involved in helping to allow those emergency responders to do their job.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: aviation; bidenjunta; disaster; faa; faascists; hurricanehelene; northcarolina; rescue
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To: goodnesswins

Yes it has. They couldn’t stand the BAD PR!..............


41 posted on 10/03/2024 8:49:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: 230FMJ

Check your town councils and planning committees. They’re full of them. We had a local issue here a few years ago, when the council made a massive decision without the input of the townsfolk first.

The very next time elections came around, every single one of those jerks was voted out. Every single one. Good riddance!

They’ve been spotted, and now they aren’t welcome to try that bs again. If they ever run for election for something else, I’m pretty sure there will a big stink. The gloves will come off and they’ll be made into mincemeat.


42 posted on 10/03/2024 8:51:22 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Red Badger

They don’t even want drones flying about to locate victims needing help. Keeping the skies clear for their non-rescue efforts. Unbelievable.


43 posted on 10/03/2024 8:53:43 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Red Badger

This is the best media report I’ve seen, which is not really surprising, as it’s coming from an “alternative” source, vs. the legacy establishment media.

But there are still questions that should be pretty easy to answer. Like, who was the guy who told the pilot to get lost? What’s his side of the story?

Lake Lure has a full-time fire department, and the chief’s name is listed on their website, so it shouldn’t be too hard for a reporter to at least call and try to reach him. It’s easy to imagine that he might be a little preoccupied, but they could at least report “we tried to reach the department at the public number, but were unable to contact a representative at the time this article went to print.”

Would be good to follow up after things settle down a bit as well.

Here’s the guy:

https://www.townoflakelure.com/directory-listing/dustin-waycaster


44 posted on 10/03/2024 9:07:16 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Red Badger

And “Back the Blue” will do the arresting.


45 posted on 10/03/2024 9:08:32 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: ryderann

Does anyone remember about 15-20 years ago there was a terrible flooding of the Mississippi River. One of the states along there was not getting any emergency help. It turned out that the female governor had received a call from the DNC or maybe the democrat president’s staff telling her not to do anything. It seems like this has become SOP for the dems. I’m trying to find the details on that situation.


More justification for breaking away from the US and creating our own country. Sorry but I’m not willing to live under their rules anymore. When will the right stand up for themselves and start doing? Enough talk........


46 posted on 10/03/2024 9:12:16 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Red Badger

Lake Lure fire chief,


What is his name? Shine the light on him.


47 posted on 10/03/2024 9:23:45 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Red Badger

Reading the article, it was one dude that was a bit freaked out being stoopid.

Sounds like it got sorted out in fairly short order, and work progressing as it should the next morning.

Sheesh - a little grace can go a long way in dealing with some human frailty here.


48 posted on 10/03/2024 9:24:23 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: z3n

Looks like none of the authorities in the article have names


49 posted on 10/03/2024 9:26:24 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: Red Badger

50 posted on 10/03/2024 9:29:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Red Badger

How does this not make them look worse than people dying? I will never understand their sick convoluted logic. That’s something I can thank God for


51 posted on 10/03/2024 9:32:29 AM PDT by dkGba
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To: Red Badger

There will be ground holds and restricted airspace NOTAMs whenever the Big Guy decides to do his lookie-loo visit.


52 posted on 10/03/2024 9:34:14 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Red Badger

Now, if it were illegal aliens he was helping....medal of freedom time with Bidet*

Possible conservative deplorables?
Arrest him.


53 posted on 10/03/2024 9:36:04 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either)
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To: subterfuge

Lack of names always makes me suspicious


54 posted on 10/03/2024 9:46:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Red Badger; All
Thank you for referencing that article Red Badger.

"Firefighter threatened with arrest in NC after using own helicopter to rescue hurricane victims as Biden-Harris admin restricts private flights, drones over affected areas [??? emphasis added]"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Although federal relief from natural disasters would arguably be the best invention since sliced bread, it remains that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the very corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds the specific power to either provide relief from natural disasters, or to regulate air traffic.

Note that the Wright Brothers' first airplane was invented long after Constitution was ratified, the neglected Constitution never appropriately amended for regulating peacetime flying machines.

But more importantly imo, consider that misguided activist President Woodrow Wilson is the one who signed Congress's National Emergency Bill into law, the unconstitutional law (imo) giving presidents the first-time, constitutionally indefensible unilateral power to declare national emergencies, POTUS not even having express constitutional power to declare war.

Also note that troubled times as a consequence of WWI gave Wilson the politically correct excuse to sign National Emergency Act.

Think of unconstitutional federal relief for victims of Helene as reparations for victims paying unconstitutional federal taxes for the last 100+ years.

As for the rest of us, we'll get our reparations when the new Congress that we support Trump with on Election Day supports hopeful Trump 47 in leading the states to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments.

Since Congress and renegade states have repeatedly proven that they are enemies of the people imo, evidenced by Congress's failure to impeach and remove Mayorkas from office because of failed, politically correct open border policy, it is now up to Democratic and Republican Trump supporters to effectively "impeach and remove" ALL (exceptions?) state and federal lawmakers and executives in November.

In fact, it's up to us Trump supporters to take the first MAJOR step in draining the swamp by supporting hopeful Trump 47 with a new, Constitution-respecting Congress, new state lawmakers too, not only so that he will not be a lame duck president from the first day of his second term, but will support him to quickly finish draining the swamp.

Finally, let's not allow the anti-Trump media try to fade our memories of what we witnessed on July 13.


55 posted on 10/03/2024 10:03:40 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Red Badger

Let the bastards threaten all they want. Now is the time to give them the middle finger and lend aid to your brothers and sisters in need.


56 posted on 10/03/2024 10:08:15 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Red Badger

Western NC is deep red.

The Democrat scum are going to drag their feet on this just enough to screw up the voting there in western NC come election day....giving the Dems a good shot at Prez & Governor.


57 posted on 10/03/2024 10:08:15 AM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: Red Badger

Sounds like:
-Local fire chief didn’t know what to to, so he said stop.
-Local fire chief just being a self-important dick


58 posted on 10/03/2024 10:08:38 AM PDT by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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To: John S Mosby

They’ve been doing it to private landlords over the last 3.5 years with “tenant protections” and “good cause eviction”


59 posted on 10/03/2024 10:13:04 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: Ronald77

Remember when “George Bush don’t care about black folks?”

Well Joe Bi-Dung and Kamalama Ding Dong don’t care about white folks.


60 posted on 10/03/2024 10:14:31 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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