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Skilled Neolithic Engineers Built Spain's Menga Dolmen
Archaeology Magazine ^ | August 30, 2024 | editors / unattributed

Posted on 09/01/2024 6:11:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

According to a Phys.org report, a team of archaeologists, historians, geologists, and physicists led by José Antonio Lozano Rodríguez of the Canary Islands Oceanographic Center and the University of Alcalá examined the Menga dolmen, a megalithic monument built in what is now southern Spain some 6,000 years ago, to learn more about how it was constructed. The structure consists of stone walls topped with a stone ceiling supported by stone pillars. Some of these stones weigh more than 160 tons. The researchers suggest that the stones were quarried about one-half mile away and transported to the site on sledges dragged over a wooden trackway. Then, they think the site for the dolmen was dug out of the hill in which the monument rests, and the rocks were precisely wedged into place in the bedrock with counterweights and ramps. Interlocking the stones at a slight inward angle with levers reduced the size of the roof needed, and produced the dolmen's trapezoidal building shape. The pillar stones were then added, and the roof stones were put in place. Overall, the researchers concluded, each step of the construction required the work of highly skilled engineers.

(Excerpt) Read more at archaeology.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: archaeoastronomy; europe; godsgravesglyphs; history; megaliths; menga; spain
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L. García Sanjuán, J. A. Cámara Serrano, Megalithic Sites and Landscapes of Andalusia: The Large Stones of Prehistory (Consejería de Cultura, 2009)
Location and interior of the Menga dolmen
Location and interior of the Menga dolmen

1 posted on 09/01/2024 6:11:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Lozano Rodríguez et al. 2024, Science Advances
Lozano Rodríguez et al. 2024, Science Advances

2 posted on 09/01/2024 6:12:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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The other GGG topics added since the previous digest ping, alpha:

3 posted on 09/01/2024 6:13:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: 240B; 75thOVI; Adder; albertp; asgardshill; At the Window; bitt; blu; BradyLS; cajungirl; ...
The list of the week's topics was quite long, so this Digest ping doesn't include it, it's in an earlier post.

4 posted on 09/01/2024 6:14:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Overall, the researchers concluded, each step of the construction required the work of highly skilled engineers.

Next, they'll be telling us that building the pyramids "required the work of highly skilled engineers." It's a new idea, some kind of brilliant insight, the building enormous things out of rock requires skill?

Maybe the point is that the word "engineers" is supposed to convey something new.

5 posted on 09/01/2024 6:16:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Tax-chick

Yes, just as different technologies were used in stone-knapping to make tools during the stone age.


7 posted on 09/01/2024 6:18:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bedrock University was a very good engineering school


8 posted on 09/01/2024 6:23:28 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: nwrep

Not sure those skilled engineers would be called “white” today and the Peruvian stone masons were pretty skilled too.


9 posted on 09/01/2024 6:24:06 AM PDT by JeanLM
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To: Tax-chick

My long-time “take” is that civilization has moved ahead in spurts. The spurts are generated by the occasional genius born among the population who directs how things get accomplished.

(Borrowed from Dr. Jay Gould, who postulated that evolution on the planet occurred in spurts, or in “Punctuated Equilibrium”).

I had occasion to speak with him before his early death.


10 posted on 09/01/2024 6:25:03 AM PDT by Does so (Our Zoo-Animals are Safe--For Now...! 🇺🇦.....)
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To: Does so

I also believe this but with one caveat. There are points where social order promotes, technology exists and genius meet. I think of the Panama Canal. It required American will, medical expertise, electric motor technology and organizational genius.


11 posted on 09/01/2024 6:53:27 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: SunkenCiv
looks kinda like “earth berm” housing or storm shelters?

is the floor original bedrock? pretty smooth

thanx for sharing

12 posted on 09/01/2024 6:55:42 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: thinden

It would make a good bomb shelter


13 posted on 09/01/2024 7:02:07 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: SunkenCiv

The word “engineer” conveys higher status today than the word “builder” or “construction manager” or - at the bottom - construction worker. It sounds as though they’re trying to cut-and-paste status onto Neolithic people, as if the monuments themselves did not speak sufficiently eloquently of our ancestors’ abilities.


14 posted on 09/01/2024 7:09:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Does so

Yes, that’s reasonable. My point was that using the word “engineer” doesn’t add anything to the people’s accomplishments.


15 posted on 09/01/2024 7:10:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: SMARTY
It would make a good bomb shelter

I was wondering what they were sheltering from when I saw the pics.

16 posted on 09/01/2024 7:18:59 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: Sirius Lee; SMARTY; SunkenCiv

To: SMARTY
It would make a good bomb shelter

I was wondering what they were sheltering from when I saw the pics.

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me too


17 posted on 09/01/2024 7:23:16 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: Tax-chick

“Next, they’ll be telling us that building the pyramids “required the work of highly skilled engineers.” “

I know, what a stoopid headline! Truly brilliant insight.


18 posted on 09/01/2024 7:32:31 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: SunkenCiv
I'm wondering if the original reason for building dolmens was for protection against a threat from the sky.

From Wikipedia:
The Taurid stream has a cycle of activity that peaks roughly every 2,500 to 3,000 years,[9] when the core of the stream passes nearer to Earth and produces more intense showers. In fact, because of the separate "branches" (night-time in one part of the year and daytime in another; and Northern/Southern in each case) there are two (possibly overlapping) peaks separated by a few centuries, every 3000 years. The next peak is expected around 3000 AD.

Most of them were constructed about 6,000 years ago, in Britain, France, Germany, Bulgaria, the Levant, Turkey, Russia, India, China, Japan and especially Korea.

Archaeologists say dolmens were built as tombs, but I suggest that any burials came later.

19 posted on 09/01/2024 7:43:30 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Much can be accomplished with an expendable supply of slaves.


20 posted on 09/01/2024 7:59:41 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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