Posted on 08/19/2024 5:26:26 PM PDT by ransomnote
FReeper RedRyder_90 had an idea for a book club style thread on FR after we listened to several of the David Suchet Bible readings. I think it's a great idea. If no one else is interested, she and I will share our comments.
I understand that threads discussion religion, or in this case, the version of the Bible read (NIV), can become wild west style bar brawls.
So I would preface my comments by suggesting that the thread be a religion thread in which brawls have to be taken outside it.
I see James Earl Jones reads the KJV - perhaps that could be another companion thread, or perhaps....*looks around as if inviting doom* those reading selections from either version might share a thread. *looks around for those preparing to throw a barstool*
Seriously, I have zero interest in arguing over....anything regarding this book-club Bible reading. My focus is spiritual. Perhaps a separate thread from the Bible book club thread, wherein chairs can be thrown could be made? Those who wish to debate translations etc. could focus on that thread. We could post an image of Roman Gladiators to help readers know if they're on the right thread?
Those who don't want to listen could read along in their own Bible and comment, if so inclined.
Personally, I was very impressed with the first in the series of actor David Suchet's Bible readings (The Holy Book of St. John on RUMBLE) because he portrayed the emotions of those in the Bible to such an extent I felt as if I were there among the crowd hearing the apostles.
I think the rest in Suchet's series are audio only. He reads the entire Bible.
There are various sources for those interested in David Suchet's readings.
Bible Gateway: I discovered that Bible Gateway has many spoken translations, including David Suchet's. I don't know at a glance how to select the passage. I did start with Genesis and was pleased it automatically continued to the next chapter without my intervention.
https://www.Biblegateway.com/audio/suchet/nivuk/Gen.1
Rumble: I see some of Suchet's Bible readings on Rumble but I haven't found a tidy collection of them - they are spread out, hosted by various RUMBLE channels. But perhaps we could find the links needed for the whole collection on Rumble?
Audible: I came across a nice article about the David Suchet readings on the following website.
https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2022/05/listening-Bible-david-suchet-michael-de-sapio.html
Writer Michael de Sapio writes:
Mr. Suchet’s complete recording of the Bible is available as an audio download; you can also obtain separately such parts of the Bible as the New Testament, the Poetry Books, or the Epistles. Mr. Suchet reads the New International Version, a translation which he admits will not please everyone. (At least it’s better than a 1970s paraphrase Bible I once owned. “Judge not lest ye be judged” was rendered as “Go easy on others.”)
I don't know what it's like to use Audible so this is not a recommendation. It's an option for those who either know what they are doing, or are in fact, willing to venture into the unknown.
For those who already have an Audible Account (via Amazon), David Suchet's entire Bible reading collection is available to members for '1 credit' or about $18. Clicking de Sapio's link shows that Audible is running a promotion to the end of the month (August 2024) wherein a person without an audible account could, if they so choose, pay $1 per month for each of the first 3 months of membership, cancel anytime, and then buy Suchet's collected Bible readings with '1 credit'. I don't recommend what I have not used; proceed at your own risk (or sense of adventure).YOUTUBE: The most common, free source of David Suchet's Bible readings is Youtube. However it pays to know what YOUTUBE's security risks are these days - YOUTUBE is owned by Google and at present, just clicking on a YOUTUBE link launches spyware onto your machine that can't be removed other than by re-installing your operating system. I guess we should expect this from Google in an election year? When you click on a YOUTUBE link, the spyware grabs passwords from all tabs open in your browser.A Freeper posted about the issue and I am thinking I should go through that thread and make a 'users guide' style set of instructions in a stand alone thread which explain how to prevent this maurading raid on your privacy. If you've already been infected then those instructions won't help unless you also re-install your operating system.Google is virtually everywhere, and websites like gmail, which it also owns, seem to have the same problem. Google did this before a few years ago (anyone know if it was an election year?) and was shamed out of it. It's probably had every password I've ever had for years. But, the Google 'problem' is back as of the date of the FReeper's thread.
Google is at it again, new YouTube security threat
If anyone has any insights, or interest in participating, please contribute. I've never done this before so anyone who has ever lead this kind of shared reading/listening experience online - please speak up, possibly even volunteer (oops...I just said the quiet part out loud!!!)
It might be nice if there's a separate KJV reading thread moving at the same reading pace as an NIV thread - we could tour both as we complete selections. Just sayin' I seek a flame-free experience.
I came back to your comment about the James Earl Jones recording of the KJV having removed the musical background. That does sound excellent. I just wonder why it was there in the first place. Wut do I know - it just seems so unnecessary and distracting. The Word doesn’t need background music. I dunno. But it’s good to know.
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Anyone Interested in a Book Club style thread wherein we listen and comment on David Suchet's reading of the NIV Bible?, Indy Pendance wrote: Yay, I’m in but........
Having a “moderator” for each session will be difficult. Trying to coordinate that might be a bigger mess. (can’t make it, forgot, internet down, dog ate my homework.....)
These are my thoughts.... perhaps a format of this type. This is just my example.
Doing something like this will give you the flexibility to alter the pace.
Post this on the first start date 8-21-24
1st video start date to end date (8-21-24 to 8-25-24) - (length - 4:04:18):
The Complete Holy Bible - NIVUK Audio Bible - 1 Genesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx_65lT1pUc&list=PLs0kYUO87ryQ58A2PZGnrHd4Ie1zFPzbn&index=1Discussion:
Maybe pick out a few key points for discussion, or anything interesting related to the video
Post this on the second start date 8-26-24
2nd video start date to end date (8-26-24 to 8-31-24) - (length - 3:15:27):
The Complete Holy Bible - NIVUK Audio Bible - 2 Exodus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UllC4aVZRgw&list=PLs0kYUO87ryQ58A2PZGnrHd4Ie1zFPzbn&index=2Discussion:
Maybe pick out a few key points for discussion, or anything interesting related to the video
Thank you for the suggestions. I'll try to pull everything we've suggested so far, along with reference links to sources and a link to the books of the bible mapped to David Suchet videos into one place which we can link as a comprehensive reference going forward.
Then there's this - it's number of chapters and verses in each book. It could help plan how many days for how much reading.
https://www.biblememorygoal.com/how-many-chapters-verses-in-the-bible/
The following information describes the relative size of the books in the new Testament, and therefore can help estimate the number of days in the reading window.
New Testament Chapters Verses Avg Verse/Chapter Matthew 28 1071 38 Mark 16 678 42 Luke 24 1151 48 John 21 879 42 Acts 28 1007 36 Romans 16 433 27 1 Corinthians 16 437 27 2 Corinthians 13 257 20 Galatians 6 149 25 Ephesians 6 155 26 Philippians 4 104 26 Colossians 4 95 24 1 Thessalonians 5 89 18 2 Thessalonians 3 47 16 1 Timothy 6 113 19 As David Suchet's reading of Mathew is filmed in a beautiful church, it might be among the most engaging - the rest of his readings are audip only. I propose we start with the New Testament, Mathew.
I'll pull everything we have so far into a reference post, and make a brief template we might be able to use for our threads. I think we can modify the template for our individual purposes but starting with the same few lines, as your example above shows, will help ensure the minimum information is intact.
Updated ping list:
RoosterRedux;aMorePerfectUnion; Chickensoup; Indy Pendance; Jonty30; P.O.E.; Z28.310; pollywog;desertsolitaire ;jocon307; metmom;redryder_90; ptsal;MayflowerMadam;lyby;Grammy;Indy Pendance
List of those volunteering to post a Book-of-the-Bible thread.
Those responding so far, whom we're glad will join us in this adventure, but are not available to post a thread
You have me on the ping list twice. What ever you come up with it’ll be great!
I am interested of course, but my schedule lately is a bit uncertain.
I’ll volunteer to lead a study on James and 1John, if selected.
Thank you! We’ll work around schedules! :D
Duly noted! Thank you! :D
I would listen with you. I have a personal favorite Pastor I listen to frequently. Skip Heitzeg is amazing to watch/listen to but am always interested in the Word.
Glad to have you with us. I’ve added you to our ping list. :D
Well, since I am just now.... 2 days later..... seeing this post, I think the obvious answer is No, I would not be a reliable thread host. 8-)
Real life is just so inconvenient!
Just a few more points and we're ready to start.
List of those volunteering to post a Book-of-the-Bible thread. The list below indicates the order that volunteers will host threads, and obviously when people are not available (scheduling conflicts) we'll bump them to the next book and invite the next person on the list to host. The list will repeat and perhaps we'll get more volunteers! :D
Z28.310 (James and 1John)
Starting with the New Testament, RedRyder_90 is first up with a thread for David Suchet's reading of Mathew. Red', you're welcome to post a draft on this thread and get feedback before you post the first book club thread. *oooh that sounds nice! the first book club thread!*
Suchet's readings are available on Audible, Youtube, and some are on Rumble
Here's Suchet's YOUTUBE reading of Mathew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1idCq1wQs4
New Testament Chapter Verses
Matthew 28 1071
Suchet's reading of Mathew is 2 hours and 36 minutes in length. Could I get some feedback on how many days people would like for this book?
I put the updated ping list at the very top of my Free Republic profile page, which you can access by clicking on my name at the bottom of my posts. You are invited to copy and paste the ping list into the address bar whenever you ping the group. For example, those hosting a book thread would use it to ping us to the new thread.
I will also collect other links below the ping list which readers and/or thread hosts may find useful.
Indy Pendance provided the following example for those posting threads:
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Post this on the first start date 8-21-24
1st video start date to end date (8-21-24 to 8-25-24) - (length - 4:04:18):
The Complete Holy Bible - NIVUK Audio Bible - 1 Genesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx_65lT1pUc&list=PLs0kYUO87ryQ58A2PZGnrHd4Ie1zFPzbn&index=1
Discussion:
Maybe pick out a few key points for discussion, or anything interesting related to the video
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Indy Pendance's suggestion seems like a good starting point. Perhaps to top few lines of bible threads always provide the same essentials, and book thread hosts are welcome to modify text after that to add or link whatever they wish.
We probably need a line or two, posted every time a new thread is launched, for those who will see the thread but won't have seen the original. Perhaps we should say what we're doing (or link the original, descxriptive thread) and inviting anyone who wants to be on the ping list to email me.
PS: I just realized I forgot to put myself on the ping list in my profile. *runs to go do that*
Links below are youtube “playlists” of David Suchet reading the Bible, divided into multiple parts.
<<>> The Old Testament
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlUiL8t5_mQiFParVRfjzPSFAEXcn_L7J
<<>> New Testament
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlUiL8t5_mQj0YntvZtvtppAdvX1SNiVO
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