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Boeing Mechanics Make Disturbing Discovery after Southwest Plane’s Mid-Air Emergency
Daily Fetched ^ | JULY 10, 2024 | Jason Walsh

Posted on 07/10/2024 11:07:09 AM PDT by Red Badger

A Southwest Airlines jet that experienced “Dutch roll” while flying at 34,000 feet had undergone routine maintenance before being parked outside during a strong storm, after which pilots noticed unusual movements of the plane‘s rudder pedals.

Following the incident in May, Southwest Boeing mechanics found “substantial” damage to the plane’s tail, where the rudder is located.

However, the National Transportation Safety Board said it had not determined when the damage occurred.

According to data from Flightradar24.com, the Boeing 737 Max was grounded for more than a month before resuming flights last week.

“Dutch roll” is a swaying, rhythmic combination of yaw, the tail sliding sideways, and the wingtips moving up and down.

The Southwest jet suffered dangerous movement while flying at 34,000 feet and then again when descending to 32,000 feet while flying from Phoenix to Oakland, California.

While the condition can be dangerous, modern planes now have a “yaw damper” to stop the oscillation, which causes the Dutch roll.

After the planes landed, airline mechanics discovered fractures in the metal bracket and ribs, which hold a backup power control unit to the rudder system.

Investigators last week examined the damaged parts in Ogden, Utah.

The plane was parked overnight at the New Orleans airport on May 16 during thunderstorms and heavy rain.

The plane underwent scheduled maintenance on May 23 before pilots noticed the rudder pedals moving when the yaw damper was engaged.

The NTSB said that on May 25, pilots felt the pedals moving during the Dutch roll and after landing.

All of the 31 Max jets were inspected by Southwest, but no other cases of damage were found around the rudder power units, NTSB said.

The most recent Boeing incident was reported last month, when a Korean Air Boeing 737 Max 8 experienced a sudden emergency plummeting 26,900 feet before making multiple erratic loops before stabilizing.

Fifteen passengers suffered injuries ranging from severe hyperventilation and eardrum pain, according to the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Military/Veterans; Travel
KEYWORDS: 737max; aviation
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1 posted on 07/10/2024 11:07:09 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: 04-Bravo; 1FASTGLOCK45; 1stFreedom; 2ndDivisionVet; 2sheds; 60Gunner; 6AL-4V; A.A. Cunningham; ...

Aviation PING!........................


2 posted on 07/10/2024 11:07:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

A lot of small aircraft have a “club” sort of device that’s used inside the cockpit to lock the yoke and pedals in place, preventing wind slamming the control surfaces around.

Don’t know if there’s an equivalent for airliners


3 posted on 07/10/2024 11:10:13 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger

Sabotage?


4 posted on 07/10/2024 11:11:10 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: Red Badger

Seems like a maintenance union problem, not a Boeing problem.


5 posted on 07/10/2024 11:11:17 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: NorthMountain

So they finally found a market for their useless device?...............

6 posted on 07/10/2024 11:13:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger
I’m not saying it’s fair. But you can actually buy the shirt now. Amazing.


7 posted on 07/10/2024 11:15:56 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

It really is amazing how easily people are manipulated ... they’ll even get multiple doses of mRNA injections.


8 posted on 07/10/2024 11:16:55 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger

Is the consensus on these planes that they are less stable to fly than desirable due to design and engineering decisions made to save money and time getting into production? I have read that they can be very difficult to fly “manually” and that may be why pilots with less training and experience with them have had issues when they HAD to go manual in an emergency, etc?


9 posted on 07/10/2024 11:18:26 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (Perhaps the Great Ape Lawgiver in the series Planet of the Apes was correct in his view of humans?)
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To: Red Badger
That POS probably won't do any good ...

This, OTOH ... "Remove Before Flight":

Yeah ... definitely a good idea.

10 posted on 07/10/2024 11:19:18 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Southwest Boeing mechanics found “substantial” damage to the plane’s tail, where the rudder is located.

Gotta get Boeing in the headline.

There is no such thing as a "Boeing Southwest Airlines mechanic".

They are solely employees of Southwest Airlines that are rated to work on Boeing aircraft. Those mechanics and that airline are solely responsible for aircraft maintenance.

Reading the story, it sounds like the rudder wasn't locked and was damaged by windgusts.

11 posted on 07/10/2024 11:19:38 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Red Badger

Has anyone figured out this is ‘too many incidents in a short time’ and that these problems are likely intentional?


12 posted on 07/10/2024 11:19:44 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ

Yes.

But that’s not the agenda Big Media and its masters wish to promote.


13 posted on 07/10/2024 11:22:20 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger

Used to love flying. It sucks now. I’ll stick to my car, thank you.


14 posted on 07/10/2024 11:24:34 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: Red Badger

Made in Guangdong province?


15 posted on 07/10/2024 11:25:33 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: xoxox

It’s not Herb Kelleher’s Southwest Airlines anymore.


16 posted on 07/10/2024 11:27:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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"...parked outside during a strong storm, after which pilots noticed unusual movements of the plane‘s rudder pedals."

Sooo, they noticed it during pre-flight checks, and were OK with it?

17 posted on 07/10/2024 11:28:54 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: Red Badger

“modern planes now have a “yaw damper” to stop the oscillation, which causes the Dutch roll. “

Yaw dampers have been on aircraft at least since the 60s, maybe longer. It’s not new technology.


18 posted on 07/10/2024 11:30:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Gender dysphoria is now a federally protected mental illness.)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe don’t expose 737 Max to airflows about 55 mph until this is sorted out?

Just noting that Love Field, home of Southwest, had wind gusts of 74.9 mph in May, while DFW had 77 mph in the same storm. So I think it’s likely the plane, not the wind that was the root cause of this one.


19 posted on 07/10/2024 11:30:55 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: pfflier

Boeing has a couple of facilities in Ogden. I don’t see any Southwest facilities there.


20 posted on 07/10/2024 11:35:57 AM PDT by PAR35
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