Posted on 06/22/2024 6:49:34 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
If Minnesota wants to reach its goal of net-zero carbon emissions by 2050, the state must rapidly cut greenhouse gas emissions from buildings, a sector where pollution is still on the rise.
A path to phasing out building emissions exists, according to a new report commissioned by Clean Heat Minnesota, a diverse group of energy experts, cities, community service organizations, and consumer advocates.
The report, called the Minnesota Building Decarbonization Analysis, shows that billions of dollars in investments and dedicated planning will be needed to help the state hit its climate targets. But doing so is possible, and best accomplished through mass electrification, the report found.
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“Heat Pumps work down to outside temps in the 30s. Not sub-zero like in Minnesota at times”
I heard that has changed with them, but not sure.
I can hear a train...
Heat Pumps work down to outside temps in the 30s
But it does work in that limited range. People don’t look at the whole system
same with a heat pump hot water htr, sounds good till you think about it. It the winter it sucks up the heat from your heated basement. Works ok for summer making the basement cooler.
“..Heat Pumps work down to outside temps in the 30s....”
^THIS^
We use em in a northern climate for heat during the spring/autumn cooler temperatures (35-60 degrees) and for cooling in the summer. We turn em off when outside temps drop below 35 degrees and switch over to our cold weather heating source as there is just no more heat in the outside air for them to pull from. They’ll sit there and run and run and run.....for essentially no gain.
IMHO, they have their place and are efficient in that temperature band, but they ain’t no Minnesota winter heat source solution....stupid arse libs are gonna get people killed.
Exactly. I’m in southern New England so we usually get into the 20s at night. I would say on average. However, there’s plenty of days in the winter where the high may only get into the 20s, but those are usually for a short period of time, a few days at most. Places like Minnesota, Maine, etc. Can see that for probably a week or more
“Heat Pumps work down to outside temps in the 30s. Not sub-zero like in Minnesota at times”
Absolutely. I live in the Tidewater region of Virginia and heat pumps are almost just okay during out semi mild winters. I think the line of demarcation is SC on the eastern seaboard. I miss my old house in the Shenandoah region. Natural gas and AC, that worked without the BS.
Heat pumps have been improved.
I installed 2 Mr. Cool DIY mini splits, one in the fall of 2022, the other in the fall of 2023.
Even with the high cost of electricity, due to using it and our oil fired System 2000 boiler, we spent about the same or a little less than previous years overall to heat the house the 2022-2023 winter. We spent a LOT less the 2023-2024 winter.
We heated less of the house the first year, more than previous the 2023-2024 winter, and all of it to a higher temperature than ever before.
In our area, the key is to keep or get traditional oil, gas, wood, etc. heat for the really cold days when the mini split is inefficient or doesn't work at all.
At -13F the mini split does little. At -22F it does almost nothing.
The way I look at it, the supply of oil and electricity is iffy. At any point one might not be able to get one of them.
If you start with a full tank in the fall, the mini split allows you to not use the oil for most of the winter, preserving it for when it's really cold or needed if the grid supplied electricity is down. We have enough solar and batteries to carry us for a long time to keep the boiler running.
Anybody in the northern USA who thinks they are going to heat with only a mini split air to air heat pump is going to be in for a rude awakening. A geo thermal heat pump will work fine, even on the coldest of days as it is exchanging heat with 55 degree soil, but that type of system is very expensive.
Or The Muslims will go jihad on them
Nobody would die, they would just have to huddle.
Yes, it will decarbonize alright.
People will freeze to death in the winter.
Had one all electric house with a heat pump — never again! We froze in the winter.
Bull crap
They don’t work as well as they are touted to work
Get everybody who helped write the report an electric chair. With apologies to Rodney Dangerfield.
Any time the government wants everybody to do something, somebody is making a profit.
My neighbor on Long Island has heat and AC pumps in 5 rooms. The AC seems fine but they keep their oil powered boiler fired up in the Winter.
Corpsesicles
AGREED
They suck. Had one in southern Indiana and my winter bills were $600 per month, 10-15 years ago.
Their heating bill will be unaffordable.
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