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What Are Rotary Dial Phones and How Do They Work?
Interesting Engineering ^ | 6/5/21 | Christopher McFadden

Posted on 05/21/2024 10:19:32 AM PDT by DallasBiff

The rotary dial phone was once the be all and end all of the telephones. Like the cellphone of today, everybody had one, and they ruled domestic communications for decades.

But that all changed in the 1980s when they were supplanted by a new upstart, push-button telephones. Their days were numbered (pun intended).

Many born after the 1990s have likely never seen one, which is a shame. But for those who do remember, join us as we take a trip back in time in remembrance of this glorious piece of telecommunications history.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: mabell; phone; rotaryphone
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121 posted on 05/21/2024 12:06:21 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: old-ager

Or add a 5kΩ resistor between tip and ring, the system would think you hadn’t picked up and not start long distance billing...


122 posted on 05/21/2024 12:08:31 PM PDT by null and void (Everyone on all sides a conflict will be happy to lie to you, except our side, of course!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

> lightning arrestor

The consumer had no control over any phone infrastructure, all the way up to the handset.


123 posted on 05/21/2024 12:13:10 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: Steely Tom
We had an old Fisher tube based, mono FM tuner when I was 4 years old. It went with us to Hawaii where I turned 5 on the ship between San Francisco and Honolulu. The advent of stereo FM was announced. My dad purchased a Sherwood amplifier (tubes) and an FM demultiplexer (tubes). The DeMux had a 38 KHz sub-carrier circuit and an analog sum and difference circuit for the L+R (mono) and L-R (subcarrier) to accomplish 2L = (L+R) + (L-R); 2R = (L+R) - (L-R). I suspect the 38 KHz subcarrier circuit was mixing the audio down to baseband before performing the sum and difference operations. Input to the demux was from the Fisher discriminator. An old Foster-Seeley style implemented with a transformer.
124 posted on 05/21/2024 12:14:47 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: null and void

Thanks. We never heard of it happening, but I guess others did.


125 posted on 05/21/2024 12:15:13 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Steely Tom

“The PLL was one of the great innovations of electronics”

I’m barely a hardware guy, mostly curious and lightweight reading.

It’s interesting to think about the clever, small, electrical and mechanical mechanisms that have been invented.

Getting back to the rotary phones. How in the world could the exchanges take those pulses and connect thousands of callers to their destinations all at once with bunches of relays?


126 posted on 05/21/2024 12:16:40 PM PDT by cymbeline (we saw men break out of a concentration camp.”)
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To: Jamestown1630

Yeah, enough so a whole generation was leery of being on the phone during a T-storm!

My folks sure were...


127 posted on 05/21/2024 12:18:42 PM PDT by null and void (Everyone on all sides a conflict will be happy to lie to you, except our side, of course!)
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To: xoxox
finally - something that will break the millenials.

Besides a stick shift and writing cursive.

128 posted on 05/21/2024 12:22:11 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: DallasBiff

Back in the day we could call anyone in town with just the last 4 digits.

And you could unscrew the lower part of the handset and remove the speaker piece, screw it back as a practical joke so caller could never hear anyone answer.


129 posted on 05/21/2024 12:28:10 PM PDT by Zack Attack (✔)
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To: null and void

OK, ~64- 100+ volts depending on switch manufacturer and set up. Also DC experienced V drop over distance, splices, etc

IIRC, 40 volts was the minimum. IIRC. That was a while ago. RBOC career slot. Southern Bell.

Two 48V in series, tip and ring. Again IIRC.

Thanks for the clarity.


130 posted on 05/21/2024 12:31:35 PM PDT by Blueflag (To not carry is to choose to be defenseless.)
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To: DallasBiff
There's some kind of woodpecker on my property which sounds exactly like an old rotary phone:
click click click click click click click click.
Same cadence, same beat.

131 posted on 05/21/2024 12:32:11 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Myrddin

I had a similar idea, but with series power-of-two weighted coils replacing the normal single speaker coil on a speaker cone driver.

I knew instinctively it wasn’t practical, and never tried to patent it. Also I didn’t have anywhere near the resources necessary to do so, at the time.

Undoubtedly many others had the same idea, at the time.


132 posted on 05/21/2024 12:34:03 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: ansel12

A rotary phone should be easy to figure out within a minute or so.

You didn’t watch the video at the link did you? These kids kept hanging up the receiver before dialing. LOL


133 posted on 05/21/2024 12:34:36 PM PDT by Zack Attack (✔)
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To: Hiddigeigei

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134 posted on 05/21/2024 12:36:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: old-ager

Didn’t stop us from putting one in 75 years ago.


135 posted on 05/21/2024 12:38:17 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: DallasBiff

Interestingly, they made the ‘dial’ by a series of “make/breaks” duration 60/40 on the line voltage present, IIRC. You could actually dial number without the dial. Just toggle the handset holder switch in the same sequence. You had to have rhythm, though.


136 posted on 05/21/2024 12:39:38 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Fresh Wind

we used the phones as intercoms in the house.

I cannot remember what we dialed but it made the phones of that number ring and the upstairs person could pick up.


137 posted on 05/21/2024 12:43:57 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Zack Attack

I had seen it before, seeing the rotary and the letters and the finger holes and playing with it a second should lead a normal person to put 2 and 2 together and figure out how to enter the numbers, and the receiver doesn’t have any buttons or controls, just the obvious off and activation button when placed in the holder.

People are always having to figure out new controls in cars, on equipment, on new phones.


138 posted on 05/21/2024 12:46:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: DallasBiff

Daughter-in-law from Japan asked me what the device below my TV was. I said, “you’ve never seen a VCR?” She says, “what’s that?”


139 posted on 05/21/2024 12:47:45 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: Gaffer

Another oddity. The dial tone was 90Hz, a frequency that had extremely low transmission properties across the physical wires to the phones. The lines we either weighted in frequency from 300-3000Hz (3kHz Flat) or psophometrically weighted around 1 kHz. Regardless, the 90 Hz ring tone didn’t pass through the wires. How did it get through? They used two tones, 250 and 340 Hz - when mixed together produce intermodulation products, one of which is 90 Hz. It is the human ear that is the
‘mixer’ and the brain perceives that one product the most because it’s the lowest. Neat, huh?


140 posted on 05/21/2024 12:49:31 PM PDT by Gaffer
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