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ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS are siding with the DEMOCRATS on UKRAINE to support Joe Biden getting elected!
BEJ

Posted on 04/20/2024 11:01:17 AM PDT by BEJ

The establishment Republicans are sustaining the Ukrainian war till after the election. They are doing so to support Joe Biden getting elected. If they followed common sense, they would realize that throwing money at Ukraine will do noting to win the war. The war is already lost for Ukraine. What it will do is sustain the war till after the election of Joe Biden. Joe Biden can say he stayed the course, he was true to his word.

What these traitors have done:

1) Sided with Joe Biden instead of Donald Trump

2) Thrown away American money on a pipe dream

3) Continue to throw away American money after they realized it was a pipe dream

4) Help install and continue to support a traitor to the Ukrainian people who will destroy his nation rather than have peace talks.

It's the old story of corruption and betrayal by the greasy, sleaze artists like Johnson. Yes, He even looks greasy.

I don't know what Trump is thinking. But the party has already betrayed him.


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To: Organic Panic

Yeah, you would think. Ukraine will be like a scrape metal yard. And then when Russia wins, and I’mm pretty certain it will, the front lines will be an historical amusement park. There will T 90 tanks for children to ride like Disney World, you could walk up and the battle lines like pilgrims. It’ll be like in the South, where there is some Civil War battle memorial almost at every turn.


141 posted on 04/20/2024 3:51:32 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: Kinzua

That’s false. There never was a “vote” in the Ukrainian city of Zaporizhzhia. A city of 700,000 people. Not even a Stalinist fake vote which you, apparently, approve of. Yet still the tin pot tsar had fevered dream and declared it part of his fantasy empire.

Conservatives have always been fact based because they are on our side. Marxist Democrats, OTOH, are lying filth who never miss a chance to be dishonestly advance their anti American agenda.


142 posted on 04/20/2024 3:52:22 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Petrosius

I don’t think that. I think they want to protect their borders like US would, if Russia moved into Mexico and started pointing missiles at America.


143 posted on 04/20/2024 3:54:31 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: BEJ

Then, as I have said many times before, let Putin agree to withdraw from Ukraine in exchange for a treaty of Ukrainian neutrality. He will not do it. Whether you want to accept it or not, Putin has for years stated that he does not view Ukraine as a real country, that it is an invention of the anti-Russian west, and that recognizing Ukrainian independence was Lenin’s mistake. Take him at his word. He did not invade Ukraine for fear of NATO, but because he thought he could reunite Ukraine to mother Russia. He has said as much.


144 posted on 04/20/2024 4:00:12 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: BEJ

I should also point out, in the case of your scenario with Mexico, we would only be seeking to expel the Russians, not annexing Mexico.


145 posted on 04/20/2024 4:01:33 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: lodi90

The various votes and referendums and the conflict itself have been widely reported on over the years. The Marxist Democrats have pushed for our involvement in this war more than anyone. They tried to destroy our elected President over this very issue. Where are you coming from with your backward, reversed analogy? The most patriotic and constitution honoring elected members of government oppose escalation in this conflict.


146 posted on 04/20/2024 4:43:31 PM PDT by Kinzua (What have we allowed to happen?)
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To: nickcarraway

10% for the Big Guy, and you can bet the Repukes will get their cut too.


147 posted on 04/20/2024 4:44:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: pierrem15

Well, the Russians have FPV drones too, but you usually don’t hear about those successes on Western TV. I watch the Military Summary Channel and Alex Mercorius, who is fair but certainly likes to see the Ukrainians lose. Russia is now on a military foothold and military production has increased incredibly. Plus, they have ties to N Korea for shells. On the other hand, Ukraine has a shortage of shells and wants shells quantities that nobody can provide. It needs men, trained men (not conscripted men from press gangs), it needs an air force, it needs more missiles, it needs more money, and most importantly it needs a plan. Everybody was too confident at the beginning that the Russian would lose and roll over. Ukraine had a chance for peace at the Istanbul talks, but Boris Johnson convinced them to go to war with Russia. And the sad thing is, Zelinsky is now like a delusional person, not realizing the mess he is in. He’s almost like Hitler in the final day: nationalization of the country with women and children on the front lines, belief in a super weapon that will win the war (Germans believe in the V2 rocket and Ukrainians believe in the F16 jets), no compromise or talks with the enemy, the Arian SS purity as you now see with the AZOV brigade; and I could go on with these parallels. But it all results in the massive death of your country men.

The Russian have not started their offensive but have waged a war of attrition on the Ukrainians, a meat grinder tactic. I think they are preparing for their offensive that will come sometime between May and August (Zelinski will legally not have power after May 29th because there were no elections). Now there are missiles and bombing attacks of train stations, airplane runways, power plants, etc., in the interior. That will soften the Ukrainians up. As well, more Russian soldiers have now reached the front lines and that is a sign of things to come. The Ukrainians have no plan but to die or pull back. And from what you hear from Russia government, more Ukrainians are dying than ever before. There has even been a Ukrainian brigade surrendering because they were told not to retreat and that meant certain death.

So we can believe what we want, but I think Ukraine is in a Hellhole. I think their army will snap, and it may come pretty soon.


148 posted on 04/20/2024 4:53:04 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: BEJ

We’ve seen a lot of disgusting, anti-American behavior from politicians over the last few years, but handing out Ukraine flags in our Congress when so many are struggling here in America has got to be among the most disgraceful things I’ve ever witnessed.pic.twitter.com/rxEUBtFa4U— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 20, 2024


149 posted on 04/20/2024 4:53:53 PM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: lodi90

And also, as far as my approval or disapproval of the voting process either there or here, it is apparently not needed or asked for.


150 posted on 04/20/2024 4:53:58 PM PDT by Kinzua (What have we allowed to happen?)
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To: Petrosius

Well, if they pulled a rotten deal on America like letting the Russians in, then America has every right to declare it a neutral territory. That is what Russia wanted with Ukraine: to have it neutral and act as a buffer zone.


151 posted on 04/20/2024 4:56:27 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: Jane Long

Yes, indeed!


152 posted on 04/20/2024 4:57:12 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: nickcarraway
I'm sure a lot of offshore bank accounts are being re-filled, as well. The whole "Muh Russia" scam (and all the other scams) against Trump has made the actions of most of Congress suspect.
153 posted on 04/20/2024 5:10:09 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: BEJ
No, Russia did not just want a neutral Ukraine. They want a subservient Ukraine. That is why Putin put pressure on Yanukovych to repudiate the EU/Ukraine economic agreement and join the Russian lead Eurasian Economic Union. Putin does not recognize Ukraine as a legitimate state, seeing as rightfully a part of Russia. He has stated so publicly many times.
154 posted on 04/20/2024 5:39:07 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

He has stated that he wants a buffer zone. They don’t want a Ukraine that will have NATO missiles pointing at them, any more than the US wants Mexico to have Russian missile pointing at it. It’s quite simple.


155 posted on 04/20/2024 6:24:58 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: BEJ

He has stated that that he wants unconditional surrender. He could have his buffer state in a heart beat if he agreed to pull out of Ukraine. That, however, is something that he will never do. Has he not declared the conquered territories an inalienable part of Russia? He has also, many times in the past, stated that Ukraine is not a real country. So it is not quite so simple after all.


156 posted on 04/20/2024 6:31:07 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Well, I’ve never heard of him say he wants unconditional surrender. He says he would not talk to the Regime as is, but to the American, who are the curators. That makes sense.


157 posted on 04/20/2024 7:46:29 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: Petrosius; Allegra; Jane Long
And...

Here is ANOTHER Zeeper accusing anyone that puts our border first, the border of the United States of America, a "pro-Putin" ~














(Hope the .webp works.. too much trouble to photoshop it and change it to .gif)

158 posted on 04/20/2024 7:54:39 PM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Allegra; Jane Long

To be honest, with all of the spamming of Ukraine crap, I really stopped giving a darn about them.
Zeepers just don’t get it.. unless they paid agitators to begin with, which I wouldn’t put past them, they are definitely agitating the majority of FreeRepublic.
The Demoncraps sure love them though!


159 posted on 04/20/2024 7:58:06 PM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Petrosius

Well, I’ve never heard of him say he wants unconditional surrender. He says he would not talk to the regime as is, but to the Americans, who are the curators. That makes sense.

And I would add, he is disappointed that Americans did not hold to their promise of non NATO expansion. The Biden regime as screwed up in so many ways it is ridiculous. Ever since Afghanistan where they left 72 billion worth of weapon to the Taliban (the monetary equivalent of two aircraft carriers) they have continued to listen to the neocons and disaster awaited. And nobody learned any lessons. So if the Republican RINOS/uniparty/establishment voted for this bill, they are in league with the devil because they will drain the American taxpayer before Trump ever drains the swamp. And they will look like they are doing the American taxpayer a favor.


160 posted on 04/20/2024 7:58:35 PM PDT by BEJ
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