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Why Biden Should Not Debate Trump
The Atlantic ^ | April 16, 2024 | David Frum

Posted on 04/18/2024 9:08:04 AM PDT by lowbridge

A consortium of television networks yesterday released a joint statement inviting President Joe Biden and his presumptive opponent, Donald Trump, to debate on their platforms: “There is simply no substitute for the candidates debating with each other, and before the American people, their visions for the future of our nation.”

President Biden’s spokesperson should answer like this: “The Constitution is not debatable. The president does not participate in forums with a person under criminal indictment for his attempt to overthrow the Constitution.”

In their letter of invitation, the networks refer to presidential debates as a “competition of ideas.” But one of the two men they’re inviting turned the last election into a competition of violence: Trump tried to seize the presidency by force in 2021.

If Trump had not occupied the presidency at the time of his attempted coup d’état, he would very likely be already serving a lengthy prison term for his alleged crimes against the 2020 election. Earlier this month, a principal figure in the January 6 attack was sentenced to seven years in prison, the latest of many such serious convictions and sentences. Fortunately for Trump, the U.S. justice system is highly cautious, deferential, and slow when dealing with persons of wealth and importance. Although the followers have been punished, the indicted leader of the plot is unlikely to face trial before Election Day 2024. Until tried and convicted, Trump must be regarded as innocent in the eyes of the law.

But the political system has eyes of its own. No doubt exists about what Trump did, or why, or what his actions meant. Trump lost an election, then incited a violent mob to attack the Capitol. He hoped that the insurrectionists would terrorize, kidnap, or even kill his own vice president in order to stop

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KEYWORDS: biden; davidfrum; debate; dementiajoe; loserjoe; theatlantic; thespewlantic; trump
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1 posted on 04/18/2024 9:08:04 AM PDT by lowbridge
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Non pay wall link

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2 posted on 04/18/2024 9:08:25 AM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: lowbridge
...Trump tried to seize the presidency by force in 2021...
3 posted on 04/18/2024 9:11:11 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: lowbridge

“Trump lost an election, then incited a violent mob to attack the Capitol. He hoped that the insurrectionists would terrorize, kidnap, or even kill his own vice president in order to stop”

Stopped there...sheesh


4 posted on 04/18/2024 9:11:31 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The Tree of Liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: lowbridge

Because the voters would see just how far Biden’s condition has progressed. We can’t let the people see the truth for themselves you know.


5 posted on 04/18/2024 9:14:42 AM PDT by rdl6989 ( )
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Biden either loses support because his brain is fried and can’t debate or refuses because of a lame excuse like this and he will lose support. Probably better for him to refuse since at least his “supporters” can delude themselves as if its some moral victory.


6 posted on 04/18/2024 9:14:43 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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President Biden’s spokesperson should answer like this: “The Constitution is not debatable. The president does not participate in forums with a person under criminal indictment for his attempt to overthrow the Constitution.”

Ah!

So NOW we come to it.

The Democrats are using the Department of Jesters under Gauleiter Garland to directly attack their opponent in the 2024 "election", kind of like Pakistan, Brazil or Venezuela.

The Democrats have turned this country into a first-world banana republic.

7 posted on 04/18/2024 9:14:45 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
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To: lowbridge
This is the "David Frum":

"...No doubt exists about what Trump did, or why, or what his actions meant. Trump lost an election, then incited a violent mob to attack the Capitol. He hoped that the insurrectionists would terrorize, kidnap, or even kill his own vice president in order to stop..."

I think he actually believes this. I would have a smidgen of grudging "enemy" respect if I thought it was all being done for political purposes, but I believe he is so much of a frothing at the mouth Leftist that this is his vision of reality.

8 posted on 04/18/2024 9:14:58 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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I’m starting to wonder if Trump is not as compromised as johnson. Where the hell is his voice on what is happening in the house. They must be holding over his head that congress will remove him from the ballot if he speaks. If that’s true, Trump is compromised and we have no one left.


9 posted on 04/18/2024 9:15:24 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: ComputerGuy

I love how these clowns COMPLETELY FORGET that Hillary, Obama, the CIA and FBI attempted a coop against Trump. They are such S- -T heads that f they pulled their heads out of their rear ends the oxygen would kill them.


10 posted on 04/18/2024 9:16:47 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country.)
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To: goodnesswins

[[“Trump lost an election, then incited a violent mob to attack the Capitol.]]

Trump should sue them for libel or slander- I wonder if he will get an 80 million dollar settlement like whatshername got?


11 posted on 04/18/2024 9:16:51 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: lowbridge

The Atlantic = DELUSIONAL TDS. FJB!


12 posted on 04/18/2024 9:17:57 AM PDT by wetgundog
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To: lowbridge

Because the viewers will see that Trump will work for the good of the country while biden will destroy it for good.


13 posted on 04/18/2024 9:18:16 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Delusionary people should not be given power over normal people.)
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To: lowbridge

Everyone knows the real reason why Diaper Joe won’t debate is because he can’t.

Stuttering, mumbling, yelling, forgetting where he is, etc. is not a good look.


14 posted on 04/18/2024 9:18:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: lowbridge

The Atlantic...................Should be in it...............


15 posted on 04/18/2024 9:18:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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“The president does not participate in forums with a person under criminal indictment for his attempt to overthrow the Constitution.”

That perch on top of the moral high ground is on an ever-shaky foundation since the ONLY reason this President hasn't been indicted is because he hired the very people who should be bringing him up on charges for influence peddling, bribery solicitation, obstruction of justice, mishandling of classified documents, ... and that's just the low-hanging fruit for starters.

16 posted on 04/18/2024 9:18:51 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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the only way they will ALLOW biden to debate is IF he can read his answers off a teleprompter, and hear how to respond through an earpiece- He is still capable of reading, but his off-teleprompter responses are horrible and showcase his mental issues, so he will never be allowed to debate where the answer isn’t known beforehand and written on a prompter


17 posted on 04/18/2024 9:18:51 AM PDT by Bob434
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When a refusal to debate comes from a person with strength, it can be a smart move. In Biden’s case, it will be seen as a move of fear. The questions about his mental abilities are so common that his refusal to stand on the same stage will be seen as confirmation that he is senile. It doesn’t matter what excuse they come up with.


18 posted on 04/18/2024 9:19:33 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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chkckensh*tjoe


19 posted on 04/18/2024 9:19:40 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to kill us. Plan to avoid this.)
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He's afraid Trump might ask him about his uncle who eaten by cannibals.

"Uncle Bosey got shot down in a plane and was possibly eaten by African cannibals."

https://twitter.com/hollandcourtney/status/1780648870604894633

20 posted on 04/18/2024 9:20:14 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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