Posted on 04/11/2024 3:28:01 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
Description: Known across the world by many names such as: "Gypsies", "Roma", "Romani", "Sinti", etc... ; the Gypsies played a crucial role in the development of the Balkans & the history of many of the countries that inhabit the region today such as: Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Greece, Bosnia, Albania, Macedonia, and many others outside of the region. Yet, when talking about history, very rarely are the Roma mentioned or talked about. In this video we go over the origin of the Roma in India, their migration across the Silk Road and into the Balkans, their life in the Balkans & under the Ottoman Empire, the 20th century, their life under communism & finally modern times.
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On the word "Gypsy": "Gypsy" comes from the word "Egyptian", because prior to the late 18th century, Europeans & Gypsies themselves believed they came from Egypt. The word "Roma" means "man/person" in the Gypsy language, and prior to basically the 1950s the Gypsies didn't even think of themselves as a coherent group, but different clans and families.
If we're talking about the more colloquial word for Gypsies in Eastern Europe, "cigan, cigány, țigan", it comes from the Greek "antsigan" which means untouchable. However, outside of Greece, most didn't know the meaning of the word (surprise surprise medieval peasants were monolingual). Later in the 16th century due to Gypsies becoming the majority of the slave population in the Ottoman empire & the Balkans, the versions of "antsigan" became synonymous with slave. However, the words "Slav/Sclav" also meant slave as Ottomans had laws of considering non-Muslims their property.
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I had read 2 books on the Gypsies within about a year of each other and not much longer afterward got picked up by a gypsy in California as I was hitch-hiking to Houston, the conversation probably surprised him.
I love it when books come into use like that.
Everyone I have ever know who has had dealings with them don’t like them for good reason.
That was the name of the song, and you’re right - it was sung by Cher.
The name was…Gypsies, Tramps and Theives.
Gypsies seem to be the one group that even politically correct Europeans are allowed to hate openly.
My maternal grandmother was likely Gypsy, Jew or both.
Sent to America at 14 on her own as it was safer for an orphan to do that rather than stay in Asto-Hungary at that pre-WWII time.
The two groups Hitler wanted to completely eliminate were Jews and the Roma (previously called “Gypsies”).
He was willing to tolerate Slavs as slaves, though.
Charlie Chaplin’s mother, it turns out, was a Gypsy. He was born in a caravan in the Black Patch area outside London.
I was in Colombia and was told the same from a cop. Trouble is their middle name.
I expect Gypsies to be picking pockets in France, not conning Americans in a Walmart parking lot.
That was the title of the song and yes it was sung by Cher.
That's probably the root of the German word for Gypsy, "Zigeuner." When I was in Germany, I had plenty of Zigeunerschnitzel, a veal cutlet smothered in a gravy comprising tomatoes, onions, other vegetables, and spices.
Oddly, I saw it again, just last week. It's on Kanopy, a movie site run by the library.
By the way, if some stranger knocks on your door and offers to resurface your driveway for a ridiculously low price, DON'T DO IT!
They slosh a pail of used motor oil on your drive way, and it will look good until the next time it rains and washes into the sewer. It was a scam in Central Illinois, years back, and the local popo accused a Gypsie family operating in the area. They seem to go for the Short Con.
True? Hellifino.
Italian = zingari
My parents rented a house to gypsies. They stripped it clean.
French = gitans
Spanish = gitanos
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