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Roman dodecahedron uncovered by amateur archaeologists in the UK
Live Science ^ | January 19, 2024 | Tom Metcalfe

Posted on 01/31/2024 7:45:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv

More than 100 dodecahedrons have now been found in northwestern Europe, but archaeologists still don't know what they were used for.

Amateur archaeologists in England have unearthed a stunning Roman dodecahedron — a mysterious class of objects that has baffled experts for centuries.

The dodecahedron — a 12-sided metal shell about the size of a grapefruit — was found this past summer during a dig in a farmer's field near the Lincolnshire village of Norton Disney, located about 35 miles (56 kilometers) southeast of Sheffield.

A previous geophysical survey, which had detected underground areas where the Earth's magnetic field had been disturbed, had revealed what looked like a buried pit at the site, and metal detectorists had already found Roman coins and broaches in the same field, said Richard Parker, the secretary of the Norton Disney History and Archaeology Group, an organization of local volunteers...

So far, archaeologists have found Iron Age artifacts near the village that predate Roman rule and hundreds of pieces of Roman pottery from the second and third centuries A.D.; and the remains of a Roman villa have also been found near the village, he said...

Roman rule continued until about A.D. 410, by which time most of the legions had left to defend continental Europe from barbarian invasions and the British were left to fend for themselves.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: 12sider; dnd; dodecahedron; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; mystery; rollingdamage; rollinghitpoints; romanempire; rome
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To: Labyrinthos

I would guess a wooden rod or stick that would have gone away long ago.


61 posted on 02/01/2024 10:42:43 AM PST by Semper Vigilantis ('Legal' and 'Right' are not synonyms)
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To: Red Badger
I suppose that could be. I guess since the Romans were known for being conquers of land & people, the ammo aspect fit into their make-up. But heck, they had to eat also. So, a dinner bell works too. 😋 👍

A candle-holder was also suggested. Since I actually have no clue beyond my worthless suggestion, it could be any of the suggestions offered, or none of the above just as well..

I'll see what I can find. 🙂

62 posted on 02/01/2024 10:57:31 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: nitzy

>>>Did they explain the purpose of the different sized holes?<<<

I couldn’t find the documentary I saw, but I did find this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poGapxsanaI


63 posted on 02/01/2024 10:58:42 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Red Badger
The following from Wikipedia: Roman dodecahedron & Wikipedia Icosahedron

A Roman dodecahedron or Gallo-Roman dodecahedron is a small hollow object made of copper alloy which has been cast into a regular dodecahedral shape: twelve flat pentagonal faces, each face having a circular hole of varying diameter in the middle, the holes connecting to the hollow center. Roman dodecahedra date from the 2nd to 4th centuries AD and their purpose remains unknown. They rarely show signs of wear, and do not have any inscribed numbers or letters.

The first dodecahedron was found in 1739. Since then, at least 116 similar objects have been found in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Hungary, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. In 2023, a dodecahedron in excellent condition was found by amateur archeologists in the small village of Norton Disney in Lincolnshire, UK, bringing the total to 33 of such objects found on the territory of Roman Britain.

Instances range in size from 4 to 11 centimeters (1.6 to 4.3 in). A Roman icosahedron has also been discovered after having long been misclassified as a dodecahedron. This icosahedron was excavated near Arloff in Germany and is currently on display in the Rheinisches Landesmuseum in Bonn.


Convex regular icosahedron


Great icosahedron

No mention of dodecahedrons has been found in contemporary accounts or pictures of the time. Speculative uses include as a survey instrument for estimating distances to (or sizes of) distant objects, though this is questioned as there are no markings to indicate that they would be a mathematical instrument; as spool knitting devices for making gloves (though the earliest known reference to spool knitting is from 1535, and this would not explain the use of bronze or the apparently similar icosahedron which is missing the holes necessary for spool knitting); as part of a child's toy; or for decorative purposes.

I guess we can now add, candlestick holder, bell, & ammo to the speculative list, but I will go with decorative purposes, A.K.A knickknacks. 😋

The Roman dodecahedron still looks dangerous to me though. Could be a weapon of convenience, much like a candlestick holder or a brass bell of considerable weight. 🤣

64 posted on 02/01/2024 11:24:37 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: gundog

Alright now I want some spaghetti for dinner tomorrow night.


65 posted on 02/08/2024 9:04:00 PM PST by Redcitizen
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Thanks for joining us this week as we explore why the Roman Dodecahedron has been such a mystery for over 250 years. Do you know what it was used for? 
The Mystery Roman Object - that Defies Logic | 11:46 
Paul Whitewick | 173K subscribers | 661,076 views | June 23, 2024
The Mystery Roman Object - that Defies Logic | 11:46 | Paul Whitewick | 173K subscribers | 661,076 views | June 23, 2024
Chapters:

00:00 - Intro
01:07 - 1739 Hertfordshire
03: 21 - What are they
06:39 - Mapping
07:47 - Why it wasn't use for that.
09:39 - Conclusion
I was altered to a BBC Sounds interview from BBC Radio Lincolnshire recently. It discussued the "Fake" Roman Dodecahedron and how it has caused upset. Naturally i was keen to listen. Here is a brief discussion on why I need to rant a tad about it.

The Article in Question 
The Roman Dodecahedron Debate Nobody Expected | 9:49 
Paul Whitewick | 173K subscribers | 92,625 views | April 13, 2025
The Roman Dodecahedron Debate Nobody Expected | 9:49 | Paul Whitewick | 173K subscribers | 92,625 views | April 13, 2025
00:00 - Intro
00:32 - Disclaimer
01:00 - Context
01:38 - What is it?
02:21 - Ebay?
04:08 - Copyright?
04:59 - Exploited
06:40 - Rant
08:30 - Whats Next?
09:10 - My Mistake

66 posted on 04/16/2025 8:27:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Gambling. Like rolling a dice. Legionnaires loved to gamble. I am sure there were wooded fillets in each hole with different numbers or symbols.
67 posted on 04/16/2025 8:31:32 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Beowulf9

used to stop cavalry mounted soldiers.
breaking horse legs and damaging unprotected portions of hooves, cracking hooves and penetration of soft area under hooves between prongs of hooves, use to stop came to be known as knights... and heavy mounted cavalry.


68 posted on 04/16/2025 9:29:43 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10-10-10-10)
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