Posted on 12/31/2023 8:00:55 AM PST by logi_cal869
Far beneath the Israeli military headquarters in Tel Aviv, in a bunker known as The Pit, commanders were trying to make sense of reports of Hamas rocket fire in southern Israel early on the morning of Oct. 7, when the call came in.
It was a commander from the division that oversees military operations along the border with Gaza. Their base was under attack. The commander could not describe the scope of the attack or provide more details, according to a military official with knowledge of the call. But he asked that all available reinforcements be sent.
At 7:43 a.m., more than an hour after the rocket assault began and thousands of Hamas fighters stormed into Israel, The Pit issued its first deployment instructions of the day. It ordered all emergency forces to head south, along with all available units that could do so quickly.
But the nation’s military leaders did not yet recognize that an invasion of Israel was already well underway.
Hours later, desperate Israeli citizens were still fending for themselves and calling for help. Roughly 1,200 people died as the Middle East’s most advanced military failed in its essential mission: protecting Israeli lives.
The full reasons behind the military’s slow response may take months to understand. The government has promised an inquiry. But a New York Times investigation found that Israel’s military was undermanned, out of position and so poorly organized that soldiers communicated in impromptu WhatsApp groups and relied on social media posts for targeting information. Commandos rushed into battle armed only for brief combat. Helicopter pilots were ordered to look to news reports and Telegram channels to choose targets.
And perhaps most damning: The Israel Defense Forces did not even have a plan to respond to a large-scale Hamas attack on Israeli soil,
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Full disclosure: This is a NYT piece, but it asks many (but not all) of the same questions which came to my mind on 10/7.
All are fair questions, but wow, does the NYT want to shove a knife in Netanyahu’s back!
I’m not the smartest guy in the world, but by the evening of October 7th I predicted that this fiasco would eventually be attributed primarily to Israeli incompetence and ineptitude.
Too distracted by video games, porn, being angry with Netanyahu because he wanted to reform the judicial system in Israel.
Was October 7th allowed to happen as a January 6th to put out the fire of street protests opposing Mr. Netanyahu’s gov’t?
Those protesters a threat that made the crowd supporting President Trump on J6 in Washington seem pale by comparison.
I bet they knew, but the intel wasn’t correct regarding the magnitude. Perhaps they were expecting a small hostage situation that could later be leveraged for whatever.
It’s a side point, but October 7th would have turned out very differently had Israel trusted its citizens to keep and bear arms.
“Was October 7th allowed to happen”
Prove it or shut up.
It’s a fair question but the NYT’s answer, like every other word uttered by the Times, subordinates truth to its political agenda. It has deliberately sacrificed its credibility for the cause and is not a reliable source of news.
Or, the Israeli military knew and sacrificing 1200 Israelis to end Hamas once and for all was worth the risk. Granted, this is normal for Israel’s enemies.
If any of this is true, look for the IDF's Kimmel and Short to be court-martialed.
“But a New York Times investigation” - they have to add six idiots to byline the “investigation”. I love the phrase “A person with ‘knowledge’ of the calls”. I have knowledge of the calls because I read it somewhere else. The NYT is not journalism. It is a very successful Deep State Operation.
“But a New York Times investigation” - they have to add six idiots to byline the “investigation”. I love the phrase “A person with ‘knowledge’ of the calls”. I have knowledge of the calls because I read it somewhere else. The NYT is not journalism. It is a very successful Deep State Operation.
Background:
‘Kaplan Force’ sedition just before Oct. 7
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/382267
The first responsibility for failure
https://www.jns.org/aharon-haliva-has-got-to-go-now/
All the claims swirling around this seem to be arranged as a way of attacking Netanyahu politically.
There were those reports that Hamas training exercises were reported a full year before Oct 7th.
But it should be noted that Yair Lapid was PM one year before Oct 7th and Naftali Bennett was PM one year before that. Are we to pretend those two had nothing to do with IDF preparedness?
Of course. I didn’t label it ‘journalism’ or, for that matter, post it under ‘news’.
But it does ask many of the right questions. If it takes 6 of them to do it, so be it.
DS is an interesting sidebar: I’ve never believed the narrative behind 9/11 (they had the hijackers’ info/pics long before the attacks and their mistake was to publish them so quickly).
10/7 was either the result of IDF incompetence, or intent.
Choose...
I believe that the NYT is playing but a role in a larger game initiated by 10/7 designed to destabilize the Israeli government.
Perhaps for a larger play against them.
The looming question on my mind:
Are the enemies of Israel now from within (as they are here in the US)?
Indeed.
No matter what the rumors may be the facts are that Israel has to be the “victim”. Same as in the 1973 war.
Israel can never be the aggressive party, the MSN and the euro trash will always declare her as being the war mongers.
“Was Jan 6 allowed to happen?” is a logical corollary.
But no one is telling YOU to shut up.
A pretty clear picture of oct. 7 failures is already understood. (See post #13). NYT is desperately trying to confuse things in their war against Netanyahu.
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