If it wasn't for hindsight, there woudn't be so many geniuses.
Full disclosure: This is a NYT piece, but it asks many (but not all) of the same questions which came to my mind on 10/7.
All are fair questions, but wow, does the NYT want to shove a knife in Netanyahu’s back!
I’m not the smartest guy in the world, but by the evening of October 7th I predicted that this fiasco would eventually be attributed primarily to Israeli incompetence and ineptitude.
Too distracted by video games, porn, being angry with Netanyahu because he wanted to reform the judicial system in Israel.
Was October 7th allowed to happen as a January 6th to put out the fire of street protests opposing Mr. Netanyahu’s gov’t?
Those protesters a threat that made the crowd supporting President Trump on J6 in Washington seem pale by comparison.
I bet they knew, but the intel wasn’t correct regarding the magnitude. Perhaps they were expecting a small hostage situation that could later be leveraged for whatever.
It’s a side point, but October 7th would have turned out very differently had Israel trusted its citizens to keep and bear arms.
It’s a fair question but the NYT’s answer, like every other word uttered by the Times, subordinates truth to its political agenda. It has deliberately sacrificed its credibility for the cause and is not a reliable source of news.
If any of this is true, look for the IDF's Kimmel and Short to be court-martialed.
“But a New York Times investigation” - they have to add six idiots to byline the “investigation”. I love the phrase “A person with ‘knowledge’ of the calls”. I have knowledge of the calls because I read it somewhere else. The NYT is not journalism. It is a very successful Deep State Operation.
“But a New York Times investigation” - they have to add six idiots to byline the “investigation”. I love the phrase “A person with ‘knowledge’ of the calls”. I have knowledge of the calls because I read it somewhere else. The NYT is not journalism. It is a very successful Deep State Operation.
Background:
‘Kaplan Force’ sedition just before Oct. 7
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/382267
The first responsibility for failure
https://www.jns.org/aharon-haliva-has-got-to-go-now/
No matter what the rumors may be the facts are that Israel has to be the “victim”. Same as in the 1973 war.
Israel can never be the aggressive party, the MSN and the euro trash will always declare her as being the war mongers.
” so poorly organized that soldiers communicated in impromptu WhatsApp groups and relied on social media posts for targeting information.”
C’mon man! You aren’t buying this shite are you?
X: Yeah bomb that brown house on the corner.... NO THE OTHER CORNER! NO THE OTHER CORNER! NO THE OTHER CORNER!
The most glaring error, in my opinion, was the unreadiness and insufficiency of the reaction forces. It was bad enough the that the communities had little training in self-defense tactics and planning and the arms available were locked up in armsrooms, But the IDF?
Why in Heaven's name did it take so long for them to react? Israel is a tiny country! I traversed the whole length of Israel from Rafah to Quiriat Shimona at the Lebanese border in just a part of one day, driving a slow truck. Armor and helicopter transports should have been close enough and the troops on duty and sufficiently trained to immediately move against the enemy. There is no excuse for taking 8-12 hours to engage the enemy.
They had a frothing, bestial enemy on the other side of a FENCE - There should never be less that a reinforced battalion available, ready with transportation instantly, at all times.
There is also the issue of female troops at risk: some put up a decent fight (the one security leader who killed a number of Hamas terrorists to lead the defense of her kibbutz and the lady tank crew) but most surrendered quickly and were raped, brutalized, tortured and either taken hostage or murdered on the spot. Most women are not suited for direct combat and they make distracting victims against a deadly enemy.
Lastly, why in Creation's name was a music festival being held within arm's reach of Gaza? Are their leaders idiots? Why not just put up signs to show where the best victims could be found in easy reach?
If Netanyahu and his military leaders were responsible for this shameful debacle, they should resign immediately in disgrace.
The full reasons behind the military’s slow response may take months to understand.
It's an old story. Success breeds complacence. Even the IDF is human and they were caught unawares. It will not happen again. Apparently even the Mossad was napping.
“The full reasons behind the military’s slow response may take months to understand”
Many other things to understand like how over 1,000 terrorists were able to get across one of the most protected borders in the world. How Hamas was able to smuggle thousands of missiles inside their secured walls.
Like USA, a lot of traitors within the Israeli government, possibly to the very top.
I've come to believe that most wars are started/allowed for certain reasons...
buyden wants a war....big oil wants a new canal....a variety of reasons...
The Israeli villages were a few miles from Gaza - a quick ride by motorbike.
Asking the IDF to keep people living near jihadists safe is like depending on police to keep you safe.
People need their own means of self-defense. Bad people can bust in your door before the police can put down a donut. Police are a deterrent, but not a preventative.
The Israelis could put sensors by the roads near their borders.
Any large metal thing moving could be detected and an image of it place on an Israeli screen.
the Israeli intel and security chiefs Haliva and Bar have taken responsibility for breakdown. over the last few years under Lapid Bennett the IDF was downsized, apparently not to good effect. the inquiry should be interesting.