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Posted on 11/13/2023 5:25:29 PM PST by Gratia

A question


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To: Gratia

America is becoming a real s-hole. It is just the rest of the world is more of a s-hole so America is still the best place to live, for now.


41 posted on 11/13/2023 6:46:54 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Don’t you know that it’s true
That for me and for you
The world is a ghetto


42 posted on 11/13/2023 6:49:27 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Gratia

“No, it is nonsense. A made-up concept intended to manipulate psychologically.”

??????????????????

An emphatic, unshakeable “NO”.

“Judeo-Christian” does not describe a religion. It refers to a set of common ethics, as found in the Old Testament.


43 posted on 11/13/2023 6:49:52 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: af_vet_1981

“Ah, you just want permission to be an antisemite and pretend you are saved. No sale.”

The addiction to name calling is fundamental. A substitute to actually thinking.

People like those on FR are under attack every day by this type of approach to interaction.

Some people are allowed to be themselves, and others are not. In America, we call names against those who dare to be who they are.

The astonishing thing is how brainwashed people are. Virtue signaling, not thought.


44 posted on 11/13/2023 6:53:22 PM PST by Gratia
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To: Gratia

The term Judeo-Christian does not refer to a person’s Christian beliefs. It simply refers to the Scriptural laws that our nation’s justice system are based on and some societal traditions we observe. I’ve never heard “Judeo-Christian” being used as some sort of religious denomination as you seem to interpret it.


45 posted on 11/13/2023 6:55:18 PM PST by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Gratia

>> A substitute to actually thinking.

Huh? You wouldn’t know “thinking” (i.e. wisdom) if she snapped you on your naked ass with a wet towel.


46 posted on 11/13/2023 6:55:34 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: DesertRhino

“And he was a Jew until the moment he died.”

Yes, He was.

Relevance?


47 posted on 11/13/2023 6:58:43 PM PST by Gratia
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To: Gratia
we call names against those who dare to be who they are.

Do you mean men who pretend to be women and women who pretend to be men, or men who love men and women who love women ? There is a name for that.

In this case, it is naming someone for who she chooses to be. The attack on Israel was so horrific, so evil, that only one with a seared conscience could choose to be deceived and write the things you write. You don't have to be antisemitic. It is a spiritual pandemic but there is a cure. Every soul is being tested.

Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

48 posted on 11/13/2023 7:02:52 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Gratia
Curious whether you have actually considered the question.
Yes, I have. Have you ever considered how Israel has been subservient to the US, sacrificing lives, land, allies, and deterrence for the US?
49 posted on 11/13/2023 7:04:31 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: Gratia

This is my home.I have ancestral roots through my Mojave bloodlines. I have worn the uniforlm, swore an unending oath, and have put my butt on the line for my country.
I have seen other countries and other forms of government.
There is no competition. My country is and has been from the onset, the only form of government that has stood for individual self-governence. No other form of government allows such an idea to exist.

Loyalty to one’s country does not mean blind obedience. Every political action converning the country should ne asked, “Will the country benefit from this?”, AND NOT, :what will i get out of this?”

Lastly, from times ancient, there was the admonishment:
“Honor the gods, love your country, love your woman.”
There may be those among y’all, that might “have a problem” with any part of that statement. That is o.k.! That is you, and you are not me.

I am a ‘rabid Americs”, first, last, and always!


50 posted on 11/13/2023 7:05:06 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: DesertRhino

“What you are doing is called sophistry. A good and decent people were attacked in the most hideous ways imaginable. Women literally raped to death. I didn’t even know that was possible. Broke their legs out of sockets spreading them so violently. A baby baked alive in an oven. Dancing kids mowed down. Taunting messages to parents.
Only a selfish prick or a total coward refuses to ride to the aid of someone in that boat.”

You could write for the NY Post.

What the media says is baloney. How is it possible that MAGA people and white people so facilely accept the hatred directed to them?

How is it possible that race guilt and religion guilt have been so readily and eagerly been accepted? Vanity.

Are there no men?


51 posted on 11/13/2023 7:09:28 PM PST by Gratia
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To: Lazamataz

“We know what you are really asking.”

Think about the implications of that statement. The tone, the assumptions.


52 posted on 11/13/2023 7:12:07 PM PST by Gratia
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To: Responsibility2nd
Is the Pledge of Allegiance still relevant to you?

Only if said while giving the traditional "Bellamy Salute" which was used until FDR and his Socialist New Dealers changed it.

53 posted on 11/13/2023 7:14:04 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Gratia

>>> So you are not loyal to your family?

What gave you the impression I’m not committed to my family?

Loyalty requires principles... Morality... a core set of beliefs that makes up one’s “character”.

Unfortunately, they don’t teach these things in school anymore.

How old did you say you were?


54 posted on 11/13/2023 7:15:54 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: DesertRhino

“Only a wuss begrudges civilized people for lining up wit Israel with assistance against this barbaric atrocity.”

Absolutely true.

But I am not doing that.

Are you?


55 posted on 11/13/2023 7:15:55 PM PST by Gratia
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To: Lazamataz

“My loyalty to America is wavering”

What about other loyalties? Are they wavering?


56 posted on 11/13/2023 7:17:56 PM PST by Gratia
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To: Gratia

>> You could write for the NY Post. What the media says is baloney.

You deny the atrocities committed against the innocents in Israel on 10/7?

Disgusting, despicable, shameful.


57 posted on 11/13/2023 7:18:08 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: PAR35

I am old and remember doing that salute in school ……They told us it was too much like Heil Hitler.

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58 posted on 11/13/2023 7:18:18 PM PST by Mears
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To: Gratia

America is an ideal, not a government.
I am a loyal American.


59 posted on 11/13/2023 7:20:50 PM PST by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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To: PAR35

Whoa!

Did not know about the Bellamy Salute. Perhaps we should all return to that time in our history and pledge allegiance while saluting Bellamy style.

Perhaps not.


60 posted on 11/13/2023 7:21:42 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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