Posted on 11/10/2023 4:51:24 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
16:23 long video of Palestinian denial. Or maybe it is ignorance. Either way, Palestinians don’t deal with reality.
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Palestine was a Roman thing brought back by the British who ruined everything as usual.
Judah.
-SB
I thought they destroyed all of them by now.
I was just thinking this the other day, lol. Yeah.
I was in Tel Aviv in 2009 and there were parts of the city being unearthed there that were under plexiglass as archeologists were digging through everything. We could see past civilizations.
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A lot of Americans don’t deal well with reality either. Democrats in particular.
According to their “holy book” muslims are not allowed to think like any of the Worlds other cultures. Instead they are commanded to concentrate on the singular idea of worldwide religious conquest through violence and deception.
A crash course on history of the PALESTINIAN STATE:1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
A little more history for those wanting to 'restore Palestine'.
In 132 AD the Emperor Hadrian resolved to stamp the Jews and their religion out of existence. He sold all Jewish prisoners into slavery after the revolt of Bar Kikhba, forbade the teaching of the Torah, renamed the province Syria Palaestina, and changed Jerusalem’s name to Aelia Capitolina. He renamed Israel to wipe out the national identity of Israel and the Jews.
So if you are looking to 'restore Palestine to the Palestinians', you need to give it back to the Jews.
KuhRayZee Bitchitis...
The difference between our peoples is that the west I ours comes from a work ethic, while theirs is a war ethic. They view an entire population as enemy combatants and because of our known benevolence and compassion, we are expected to view segments of their population as noncombatants. Though from their behavior, we know they consider their entire population as militants against the west. Until we can recognize the difference in our fundamental ethics, they will continue to exploit our compassion in hopes of seizing our ability to produce abundance as their own. Which of course won’t continue to produce abundance because of their war ethic.
Haggling (with and without violence) over the particulars of that "two-state solution" has continued for decades.
And now we're in a situation where the 2,000,000+ who live in Gaza — at least half of whom were born the last time an election was held, since Hamas has suspended and protested all subsequent elections called by the Palestinian Authority since 2007 — have lived behind quite the blockade for over 15 years:
(This blockade, incidentally, is partially why so many people have difficulty with the prospect that Israel's government had no foreknowledge of Hamas's attack on October the 7th.)
I don’t know where you got your information, but I can’t see anything wrong with your analysis. (Remind me never to argue with you about who did what where and to whom!) Excellent!
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Palestinians: How do you explain Jewish archeological sites? | 16:24
Corey Gil-Shuster | 285K subscribers | 456,165 views | August 9, 2023
Transcript 0:13 · Abdel Karim Abu Falah 0:27 · I don't expect that there are 0:30 · Jewish archeological finds from 3000... 0:33 · There is a lot actually 0:40 · I don't know about this 0:42 · and I don't expect it to exist 0:45 · Perhaps they are religious 0:48 · Jewish ruins or findings in archeology 0:54 · There are coins of Jewish kingdoms here 0:56 · He is saying that they are religious Jews 0:58 · But there were kingdoms 1:04 · No 1:07 · I don't think so 1:11 · Ramallah 1:35 · We have no archeology or ruins that are Jewish 1:39 · In our country 1:41 · This country is Palestinian Canaanite 1:48 · The origins, ruins and archeology say that 1:52 · they are Arab and before they were Arab, they were Canaanite 2:02 · No, it's all been falsified 2:04 · and it's known that Israel is falsefying history 2:11 · The Jews were not originally from here 2:14 · They were tribes Bedouin tribes 2:16 · and they used to move around 2:19 · between many countries 2:23 · They might have ruins that were passing by 2:27 · that show they were passing by 2:28 · but they are not natives of this area 2:43 · Rinad Hebron 2:52 · It's a lie 2:54 · Yes, I think so 2:58 · Maybe there is a little 3:03 · Maybe a little but not as they are saying 3:06 · that there is a complete temple 3:10 · underneath al Aqsa mosque 3:12 · So that isn't true? 3:16 · Yes 3:19 · What about all the coins that they find? 3:23 · Lots of villages that were Jewish 2000 years ago? 3:28 · What about them? 3:30 · Are those true? 3:50 · So there is evidence 3:52 · but not in the amount that they keep saying there is 3:55 · because some of it is made up 3:58 · We all know there is a history of Jews here 4:03 · Usaid Bidia 4:32 · Palestine has seen many histories 4:34 · many eras and many civilizations 4:36 · the French, the Ottoman, the British 4:39 · and then the Israeli occupation came 4:43 · Do you recognize that there was Jewish sovereignty here a long time ago? 4:48 · Sovereignty? - Yes 5:02 · No, it wasn't here 5:04 · Jewish sovereignty didn't exist 5:06 · But it came gradually 5:08 · But 2000 years ago... Oh, there is more? 5:27 · So they first came in small groups 5:29 · as tourists and then they came more and more 5:31 · and then they started settling here 5:33 · No, I am talking about biblical times 5:39 · 2500 years ago Prophet times 5:46 · There are coins that are Jewish coins 6:05 · So as a religion, yes 6:07 · it has existed 6:08 · but as a political entity as Israel 6:12 · It's new 6:16 · Asmaa Tulkarem 6:29 · That would be not true 6:31 · because we know Jewish history exists 6:34 · but our problem with them is that they claim they are the only inhabitants of this land 6:39 · and this is not true 6:41 · For centuries Jewish people existed 6:44 · with Arabs, with Muslims with Christians 6:46 · and they were welcome 6:48 · and they know their rights were preserved 6:50 · and they lived as freely as can be 6:52 · So our problem with them is that they claim 6:55 · that this is their land only 6:57 · and that we are occupiers 7:00 · Which is not true 7:01 · Not historically not in any rational way 7:06 · So it will be only right to say 7:10 · Yes Jewish people existed here 7:11 · Not just Jewish people they are talking about the Jewish kingdoms 7:14 · Yes, they existed - that existed here over 2000 years ago 7:16 · Anyone who knows anything about history will not deny that 7:19 · not deny that 7:20 · We know they were expelled from this land 7:23 · Expelled Yes they were expelled from this land 7:26 · and then they came back now 7:28 · but they are coming as occupiers 7:31 · they are not being in any way fair 7:34 · to the people who were actually living in the land 7:38 · The person asking this is a believer 7:41 · in Jewish history and the Jewish kingdoms 7:43 · and that the Jews have a right to be here 7:45 · Now, if that right extended also to Palestinians 7:48 · equally, would you be okay with that? 7:51 · Meaning Jews and Palestinians live as equals 7:54 · and both can claim they are from the land 7:55 · As equals, in everything 7:58 · every right, political rights 8:01 · religious rights 8:05 · You could be prime minister or someone Jewish could be prime minister - Exactly 8:08 · Equally 8:09 · That's how things used to be before Israel existed 8:13 · and that's the right thing to do 8:16 · why would I have a problem with that 8:19 · We hear in the news that Israeli archeologists dig up archeology 8:24 · and they claim that it's theirs - Yes 8:26 · Do you think they are claiming or that it's actually Israeli? 8:29 · or Jewish 8:31 · Because I don't have any archeology background 8:34 · but I know a little about history because I should 8:38 · I believe that they lie about it sometimes 8:42 · Yes, they lie about it They are biased 8:44 · The Israeli archeologists - They are all biased 8:47 · It's part of the land and they want to prove it's only theirs 8:51 · and they never said anything about Jewish findings 8:56 · So why? Other people also existed 9:00 · I think they are biased 9:03 · Jerusalem 9:10 · Can I explain to him? - Yes of course 9:38 · Is it a question about the political archeological sites? 9:43 · I don't know if it's political 9:44 · but the question is do you think the Jews have a connection here? 10:04 · My husband is a history teacher 10:08 · He says that maybe 10:11 · Jews have archeological sites 10:18 · ancient things 10:20 · I think that maybe thousands of years ago 10:25 · they lived in such places here I don't know exactly 10:30 · I think there is a lot of ancient archeological sites 10:36 · that belongs to all people 10:38 · I think that 10:40 · Ahmad Bethlehem 10:45 · It's not like that 10:47 · We have a long history with them 10:48 · They have some rights here 10:50 · I am not denying that they don't have anything here 10:53 · but Zionists, we have a problem with them 10:57 · Okay, but that's not the quesiton... - We have some Palestinian Jews 11:00 · Those are Samaritans 11:04 · We believe that the Samaritans are Jewish 11:06 · but the Samartians don't 11:08 · In Nablus, we have some people like that 11:10 · and they have all the Palestinian rights 11:13 · to stay in this land 11:14 · We have a problem with the people who took our lands 11:18 · I am a refugee 11:20 · I am not from Bethlehem originally 11:21 · I am from a small village called al Malha (1948) 11:26 · Now who is living there? 11:28 · There is a mall there 11:29 · Yes, who's living there now? The Jews 11:31 · The Israelis It's not me 11:34 · The actual question is 11:35 · how do you explain over 3000 years of Jewish history here? 11:41 · There have been 3000 years 11:42 · I am not denying 11:44 · They have some history 11:46 · but it's not their land 11:49 · They have all the right to stay here 11:51 · Who has the right to stay here? The Jewish part 11:54 · The Zionists who came and put the Palestinians out of their lands 11:58 · who made all these massacres after that 12:01 · We have a problem with these guys 12:03 · It's not a problem with the guys living here peacefully 12:07 · who had some lands before some business 12:10 · I don't care It's not my problem with these people 12:13 · The Christians, my neighbours 12:15 · they have all the right to stay here 12:17 · We don't have a problem with them 12:18 · But we have a problem with the guys who kicked my grandfather off of his land 12:23 · and took his land and are staying there right now 12:26 · Would you agree to a settlement... 12:28 · My settlement would be to give me my land 12:31 · and for all the Palestinians it will be like that 12:33 · If we took all... 12:34 · But there is now a huge mall there - I don't care 12:37 · I will destroy it 12:40 · and I will build my own house there 12:42 · But there is no logic to that - This is my logic 12:45 · It's my life 12:46 · It's not their life 12:48 · Because now I am suffering because some people there are enjoying 12:52 · my things, my land 12:54 · the cities, the sea 12:56 · the mountains, the views 12:58 · They are enjoying it 13:00 · so I am suffering now because of it 13:02 · I cannot travel to Jordan, to Lebanon 13:05 · to wherever I want 13:06 · unless I do all the process of documenting things 13:11 · Palestinian, Israeli and Jordanian 13:13 · But if it's my land 13:15 · I will be free to build things 13:17 · to travel, to do business 13:19 · Like any other country 13:20 · Now there is some Jews enjoying the life 13:23 · and I am suffering because of it 13:29 · (we just walked up a large hill. What we won't do for answers!) 13:33 · Ramez and Mahmoud Nablus 13:36 · Meaning, they always say the Jews are not from here 13:58 · The Jews used to be bypassers 14:01 · passers by 14:03 · but we Arabs are here 14:10 · We settled here before them 14:14 · They would find maybe one percent here 14:17 · and they want to say that it's theirs 14:23 · All the Jews that are here have no origins, no roots 14:27 · They are all from Germany 14:29 · Russia and America 14:33 · Some even came from Arab countries 14:35 · They have nothing here 14:42 · From a religious point of view Judaism was the religion of the land 14:45 · then Christianity came and replaced it then Islam came and replaced that 14:50 · So at one point, it may have been us who were the Jews here 15:01 · So religiously Jews used to be here 15:07 · Yes because Judaism was the religion 15:09 · and then Christianity came 15:11 · and he said, cancelled it 15:13 · Christianity cancelled Judaism 15:15 · and then came Islam and cancelled Christianity 15:18 · If those religions didn't come then we would all be Jews 15:28 · So we don't have peace 15:30 · and the Arabs won't help us 15:32 · We have good Arabs, strong Arabs they would help us 15:36 · Jews are criminals They took our lands 15:42 · The Jews are criminals, thieves 15:44 · They took our land It's our land, it's our right
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