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Posted on 10/12/2023 7:32:51 AM PDT by 4Runner
Having an argument with the wife, she doesn't want to spend the extra money. Anywhere from $1,000 on up.
An AR is a great home defense weapon, and while, yes it will go through walls, as a good guy, you cant shoot through walls. You cant see your target. Bad guy doesnt have that constraint. But while the 556 or 223 round will go through a wall, it will likely lose both energy, stability, and direction by doing so. Even small bushes can deflect a 223 round enough to miss a target at relatively short ranges.
A shotgun is an area weapon, and while many say its the best home defense weapon, it comes with constraints. Lots of training involved in using a shotgun for a hostage like situation where friendlies are mixed in with your adversary. If an intruder grabs your kid, are you going to use a shotgun? I'd rather have the carbine.
I have both. If you have to choose, an AR and shotgun have different uses. It depends on the territory you want to defend. An AR round goes farther and has greater penetrating power. For instance, in a suburban housing development, an AR round could go hundreds of yard and kill a neighbor sitting in her kitchen. If you have a clear field of fire of 100 to 200 yards get an AR. 12g 00 buck has an effective range of 40 to 50 yards and can deliver a devastating load, but has less penetrating power. Also, despite what some say, you have to aim a shotgun.
** but it looked to me that a shotgun may have been useful against the dudes flying low in the para-gliders.**
Some way of soaking the ‘wing’ and igniting it?
Take the wife shooting. Have her experience 12 gauge recoil vs 5.56 recoil.
Tell her the AR-15 is a gun that BOTH of you can use effectively.
In a bad situation, wouldn’t it be better if both of you were armed?
What a load of BS. That’s just old neckbeard Fudd stuff. En Bloc clips in a Garand.....also the stupid argument of case vs casings. Hornady had it on their website “casings”.....
Yep, I think we should count on it.
Look at a Ruger LC Carbine and 5.7 handgun for home defense. One magazine will fit both.
Downside is the ammunition cost but I just bought some for $0.42 a round so it’s dropping significantly. It used to be $0.80-1.00 a round.
Also, tell her: “What if I’m not home and it’s only you? Which gun would you want to use?”
It all depends on how much damage you want to inflict on your house. I would use a rifle before I used a shotgun in that regard.
Yup.
Use my 930 SPX for a quick 8 shot semi-auto close in clearing and then pick up the 30 rd AR or AK......
And chances are, the foreigners you just killed are using them as well so you can replenish your ammo by raiding their corpse.
I have one, they are nice with the wood furniture and a decisively hard hitting round. I found mine at a local pawn shop. There was an old guy who I bought firearms from at the shop and I walked in and he said I’ve been waiting on you, check this out and handed me one of these from behind the counter and said $300 OTD. I looked at it and three guys behind me were circling like vultures waiting to pounce. I laid it on the counter and one guy started to reach for it and I said, I’ll take it, write me up. Audible sigh behind me.
its hard to beat a shotgun with #00 buck shot for home protection but?
you want both of them.
Both
Is a screw driver better than a wrench?
A shotgun is a better all around survival tool: broad range of application in hunting (from small to big, land or air), but also fire starting, signaling, etc.
The AR is better in an apocalyptic scenario where you’re dealing with a target rich environment or the need to suppress, potentially longer ranges, achieve greater penetration (soft body armor or someone behind a window)...
Yes. I bought #4 for just this purpose. I put 8 shots on a target at 25 yards. The results were impressive.
Magazine, not clip. The venerable M1 Garand took clips.
As for the best type of weapon to use in the mostly close quarters fighting, a carbine would probably be best. Think HK 416 or the SP5
...my thoughts exactly....doesn’t know the difference between a clip (for a Garand M1, for example), and a magazine (for just about everything else these days...!!).....
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