Posted on 07/09/2023 1:49:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon doctor who claims to have experienced the afterlife during a seven-day coma, says the experience was like Plato’s world of ideals.
In 2008, Dr. Eben Alexander went into a coma after catching an acute bacterial infection that had a severe neurological impact on his brain. For seven days, he lay unconscious. When he awoke, he described seeing a beautiful spiritual guide on a butterfly wing that took him through a wormhole.
Sharing his story with the U.S. Sun, Dr. Alexander described a land of “beautiful very lush forests and meadow waterfalls into crystal blue pools, absolutely spectacular.”
Before fully detailing what his spiritual guide looked like, the neurosurgeon referred to the theory of Plato, the Greek philosopher who asserted that the physical world is not really the ‘real’ world. On the contrary, ultimate reality exists beyond our physical world.
In his words, “It was kind of like Plato’s world of ideals,” adding “It was a world of perfection.”
Grecian Delight supports Greece Afterlife experience for the doctor After Dr. Alexander’s amazing experience while in a coma, dubbed “Gateway Valley,” he authored the book Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon’s Journey and dedicated his life to proving the existence of heaven.
Dr. Alexander made it clear to the US Sun that recent medical reports show that his mind was “in no shape to have any dream or hallucination.” Even so, he still miraculously managed to experience a life-changing encounter.
While in the coma that had him fighting for his life. he began seeing dark images that sounded pretty haunting. Nevertheless, he recalls not being afraid of the experience although he noted that while describing to people what heaven was like, they would not find it a very pleasant place.
In talking about what he witnessed, he recounted how he was surrounded by unformed blackness and had “no memory” of his own life. Luckily, however, he was saved by a “white light” that came up along with a “perfect musical melody.”
Alexander recalled that “all that ushered me up through this wormhole, or light portal, up into the Gateway Valley, as I call it.”
The presence of “pure love,” he stated, “had “sparkling blue eyes, high cheekbones, high forehead and broad smile” although she didn’t speak a word.
Describing the spiritual guide to his final destination, ‘the core,’ he says he was filled with messages of pure unadulterated love while he rode on a butterfly wing.
On his website, the doctor describes his journey to the “unending inky blackness” of ‘the core’ and hearing angelic choirs’ with thundering hymns further away. He stated that after exiting the wormhole, he witnessed a “perfect” world with some “earthly features.”
God’s presence in Plato’s world of ideals Alexander claimed in his book that there was a deity known by many as God, but the entity could not be defined.
He wrote, “Allah, Vishnu, Jehovah, Yahweh—the names get in the way, and the conflicting details of orthodox religions obscure the reality of such an infinitely loving and creative source.”
The doctor also told the U.S. Sun that, during his week-long coma, he passed through multiple levels, always receiving the same message that “you are deeply loved and cherished forever, [and] you have nothing to fear.”
Although Dr. Alexander was adopted and was raised as a Methodist, he began to question religion when he began studying at Harvard. Be that as it may, it was only after after his birth parents rejected him and he tried to reconnect with them as an adult that he officially gave up on religion and became agnostic.
He said, “I just could not figure out how conscious awareness could survive the death of the brain and body. That was a big mystery to me, and that’s why I think I went through this extraordinary journey.”
Luckily, eight years later, right before his NDE, he eventually met his family and was hugged for the first time after receiving a positive response when he reached out to them again.
“I cannot tell you how powerful an experience that was, but that was really the beginning,” he declared.
Reflecting on his revelation of supposedly seeing God, the doctor said, “The deep reality is that any religion focuses absolutely on unconditional love, complete inclusion of all, no exclusion, kindness, mercy, acceptance, and forgiveness.”
He now perceives religion as something that should unite all people and firmly believes that, if it doesn’t, it should be “discarded.”
Recovery from the afterlife The surgeon’s family was filled with shock at the new man they found when he woke up after seven days of fighting for his life and a coma filled with a collection of uncanny experiences.
Alexander shared his feelings saying, “I think it really scared my family tremendously. They’re all elated, but the first 36 hours I was in and out of my mind, kind of crazy at times.”
During the recovery process, Alexander said he spooked his sister by acting like a “little Buddha” in front of his loved ones.
“I was sitting on the bed like this little Buddha just saying, ‘All is well’ [and] looking everyone deeply in the eyes.” Yet, he noted that he now remembers none of that.
Despite the severity of the experience, which he claims at one point was “an irreversible death spiral”, Dr. Alexander miraculously recovered speciously defying all the odds.
Newfound belief in God and religion Alexander’s apparent interaction with death and heaven greatly transformed his relationship with religion and God. This was a miracle in and of itself, given that the reunion with his birth family was what had prompted him to give up on faith entirely just years prior to his NDE.
It was after his afterlife experience that the doctor urged people to prepare for death by advising them not to wait until the end to review their lives. Rather, he encouraged them to make every choice today in treating themselves and others with love and passion.
“This is not just about what happens when you die, but this is most importantly about how you make every choice today in treating yourself and treating others,” he said. “Don’t wait to do a life review at the end of your life. What a waste that is.”
Dr. Alexander proudly admits he is no longer scared of death. Instead, he is now making good use of every moment he has in his earthly life.
So which Doctor Who are we talking about?
Everybody knows that in the Afterlife you sit in a waiting room, and they give you a number.
after catching an acute bacterial infection that had a severe neurological impact on his brain.
Your 33 day journey into the heart of consciousness.
On his homepage is a blurb from November 16, 2021:
Today, I celebrate the 13th anniversary of the day I emerged from a weeklong coma due to bacterial meningitis November 16, 2008, my re-birthday.
With assisted suicide becoming more accessible and more mainstream, anyone - especially a doctor - trying to sell an afterlife, should be regarded with at least some skepticism.
A (long) Esquire article on Dr. Alexander From 2013:
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/interviews/a23248/the-prophet/
Before Proof of Heaven made Dr. Eben Alexander rich and famous as a "man of science" who'd experienced the afterlife, he was something else: a neurosurgeon with a troubled history and a man in need of reinvention
Lol! That’s why I clicked on it... thought Doctor Who was going to be redeemed from woke death spiral.
An abundance of common sense. If the brain is truly dead it's not coming back.
I am God, there is no other.
Deuteronomy 4:35 (paraphrase)
No one has ever come back from the grave to speak of Heaven.
This is true with one exception. His name is Jesus Christ.
No one has ever come back from the grave to speak of Heaven.
This is true with one exception. His name is Jesus Christ.
This guys a fake. I know him.
Was with him the first time he told his story.
He had an ego rescue as his illness kept him from appearing before the Virginia Medical Licensing Disciplinary Board for altering medical records to cover up his malpractice. He operated on the wrong vertebrae in a patient’s back.
Bottom line, though there are things that can prove out-of-body experiences (like hovering over ones' body and describing things you otherwise cannot know about--like people coming in and out of the room that you cannot be aware of), there is something not quite genuine about these experiences. There may be something paranormal going on but the tunnels of light and meetings with old granddad left me not quite convinced of the ultimate veracity of such stories.
I'm not saying that people didn't have out-of-body experiences. What I am saying is that it is quite likely that what was learned during these out-of-body experiences isn't accurate. And if these people entered a so-called "spirit realm," there's no reason to believe the spirits they met were telling them the truth.
As an aside, non-believing and New Age practitioners come back believing in something like the "Higher Power" of AA or New Age religion.
Some Christians meet Jesus. Some meet family members.
It's all beautiful but different...and it just doesn't feel quite right.
If you look at a large number of these experiences, there is a lack of symmetry to the entire data set.
Ignoring Eben Alexander, what’s your take on the massive numbers of NDE accounts that have been reported over the years? Take a gander at my comment in post #32 above if you get time.
I’m pretty convinced that none of these near-death experiences have anything to do with Heaven or hell. They are the persons mind working through some things, but almost 100% of it is not to be taken seriously. Case in point.
So he experienced vivid dreams.
Dude they call it a dream. Geez
“In his words, “It was kind of like Plato’s world of ideals,” adding “It was a world of perfection.”
Obviously there were no democrats wherever it was his mind went.
I’ve had a few “near death” experiences myself...all alcohol related.😎
I agree with what you are saying. Your skepticism is valid on many fronts.
That being said, it is profound beyond words and the Bible is accurate.
However, a spirit out of the body can take on the shape of anyone when they meet you. There are many evil spirits acting as imposters. 1John 4:1 tells how to test spirits. It works.
There is a tunnel or portal through the layer of darkness between here and Heaven. The Light is the Light of Heaven. All this is real.
The life review process is merely your conscious awareness expanding beyond your physical body through the stored memories in your soul of all your life experiences. It’s the same process that started the phrase “My life flashed before my eyes.”
Anything that is experienced through an NDE can also be experienced in prayerful meditation.
🙏
Me too! Many decades ago.
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