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HEALTH AND SCIENCE If you had Covid before you were vaccinated, you might have less immunity than you think, study says
CNBC ^ | TUE, MAR 21

Posted on 03/24/2023 7:52:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway

People who caught Covid-19 before they were vaccinated had a weaker immune response to the shots than those who never had the virus, potentially leaving them less protected against reinfection, new research shows.

Co-funded by the National Institutes of Health, the study released Monday challenges older research that suggested a prior Covid infection enhanced a vaccinated individual’s immune response — a phenomenon known as hybrid immunity, which some scientists believe provides the best protection against reinfection.

In the study, researchers from Stanford University analyzed how immune cells found in the blood called CD4+ T cells and CD8+ T cells respond to Covid infection and vaccination. Those cells work together to produce an immune response that can help fend off the virus, killing other cells that have been infected.

The study found that vaccinating people who had never been infected with Covid before produced “robust” CD4+ and CD8+ T cell responses to the virus. Vaccination in those people also generated cell-signaling molecules that recruit other immune cells to help fight Covid, they said. In contrast, researchers said vaccinating people with prior Covid infections produced “considerably lower” cell responses “with less functionality.”

Unvaccinated people who caught Covid had even lower levels of CD8+ T cells, they added.

The researchers said the findings suggest a Covid infection damages an important immune cell response that is crucial to fighting the virus, which might leave vaccinated individuals with a prior infection less protected.

“The apparent damage of the CD8+ T cell response by viral infection is cause for concern, and may leave even vaccinated individuals with a prior infection at risk for subsequent infections or other health issues,” study authors wrote. They also said the findings highlight the need to develop new vaccine strategies that will specifically boost CD8+ T cell responses in people previously infected with Covid.

Dr. Stuart Ray, a professor of medicine at Johns Hopkins University, said the study is surprising since it challenges what is known about hybrid immunity. But he added that “we have to be cautious anytime we’re surprised by something.”

Ray said the findings may stem from the way the study was designed, specifically pointing to how researchers examined immune cells in the blood, not the tissue.

“The cells in the blood are not an absolute measure of everything in the body. The cells we know protect us are also in our tissues fighting infections,” he told CNBC. “It’s like when you’re looking for something under the lamppost when it’s over the field nearby. You might not be looking at all the cells we care about.”

Ray said the study, while interesting, needs to factor in long-term knowledge about how Covid immunity works: “It’s probably not the last chapter in this story.”

The study comes as researchers continue to investigate Covid’s impact on individuals even after they recover from the virus, which has infected more than 100 million people in the U.S. alone since the outset of the pandemic. The nation continues to see nearly 150,000 new cases each week, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The new research also comes as public health officials consider new approaches to Covid vaccination that could decrease the number of doses people need per year or require drugmakers to periodically update their shots to target emerging variants of the virus.

Roughly 81% of the U.S. population is vaccinated with at least one Covid shot, while nearly 70% have completed their primary series doses, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


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To: nickcarraway; gas_dr

Dr. SIMON GODDECK of Australia has said the only people getting covid and Dieing from It Are the Vaxxed!
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Paging Dr Howard
-‐-——Dr Fine
-———Dr Howard


21 posted on 03/24/2023 9:35:01 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Shown)
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To: central_va

Are you sorry that you caved?


22 posted on 03/24/2023 9:43:11 PM PDT by cyclotic
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To: Big Red Badger

My first jab was in Feb 2021. Had 3 more since.
Zero side effects. Strong as a bull with regular gym routine 4 days every week. I am living proof one need not get weak with age. My 83rd birthday next month.


23 posted on 03/24/2023 9:59:03 PM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: nickcarraway

They can all go pound beach sand right straight up their little gay vax’d arses.....LOL.


24 posted on 03/24/2023 10:18:01 PM PDT by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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To: entropy12

Dang !
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Mike Drop!
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Good Work FRiend!


25 posted on 03/24/2023 10:31:49 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Shown)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Ditto too!


26 posted on 03/24/2023 11:27:10 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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To: nickcarraway

What a total BS story. Sent down from the big Government scammers.


27 posted on 03/25/2023 2:47:55 AM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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To: central_va

I’m sorry that happened to you. No one NO ONE should ever be forced to be in such a position. It’s criminal


28 posted on 03/25/2023 3:17:50 AM PDT by dkGba
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To: nickcarraway

NIH and CDC still shilling for Pfizer.

Meh...still a hard “NO” here...continuous lies and false science sorta damages one’s credibility after a while.


29 posted on 03/25/2023 3:18:59 AM PDT by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: nickcarraway

>> People who caught Covid-19 before they were vaccinated had a weaker immune response to the shots

That’s just another way of saying that your GOD-given immune response renders the jab unnecessary. Response to the shots was weaker, obviously, because “response” to the pathogen was STRONG.

(FREE BONUS — your GOD-given immune system won’t screw up your GOD-given DNA like the clot-shot does.)

In GOD we trust!


30 posted on 03/25/2023 3:48:39 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: nickcarraway

What about the J&J people?


31 posted on 03/25/2023 4:03:09 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: nickcarraway

When they use words like “may” or “might” - well, there’s yer sign...


32 posted on 03/25/2023 4:11:59 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: cyclotic

So far nothing.


33 posted on 03/25/2023 4:26:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: nickcarraway

If the vaccine causes the body to respond as if it had Covid then how could the vaccine be better? Which science is wrong…the science before 2020 or after?


34 posted on 03/25/2023 4:48:07 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: entropy12

Knock on wood.


35 posted on 03/25/2023 5:27:24 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: nickcarraway

Not a chance!

It’s just bizarre to me that the CDC (or whoever) is still working on the narrative.

It reminds me of a scene in the Dinesh movie where the guy he met in jail explains that you “Never, ever, under any circumstance give up the con”. No mater how dumb or obvious it gets, you never give up the con.


36 posted on 03/25/2023 5:49:24 AM PDT by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: nickcarraway

I call bullshit.


37 posted on 03/25/2023 6:10:41 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: rfreedom4u
I had “some respiratory thing” that the doctors couldn’t figure out in December 2019. Went in for a physical two years later and they were looking at my chart and they said it was Covid that I had. They had heard of Covid when I had it but they had no guidelines yet as to what to look for.

Anyway, I kept going to work, coughed for a couple weeks and have been fine ever since.

38 posted on 03/25/2023 6:16:12 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: nonliberal
I call bullshit.

Well, since neither the vaccine nor prior infection prevents COVID reinfection, you're probably right.

39 posted on 03/25/2023 6:26:39 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: nickcarraway

If you took the shots, you are more likely to get the virus. The more of the shots you take, the more likely you are to get the virus.

Of course, the shots may kill you, so you will not have to worry about the virus.


40 posted on 03/25/2023 6:30:50 AM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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