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[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

Simple poll. Show of hands. Should we be involved or not involved in the Russia/Ukraine War?

[lonestar67]

Of course Zelensky is Jewish.

Of course Putin is killing Ukrainians to stop the nazis who hate Jews.

It all makes sense.

In fact that is why Putin has to send in Islamic supremacists into Ukraine to kill the Christian soldiers because he (Putin) is such a great Christian.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Zelensky is not a Christian, nor is he Jewish. His god is power and money, just another Satanist. Just like all leftist globalists. Gotta do that Vanity Fair spread in the middle of the war for his adoring globalist sycophants.

[lonestar67]

Zelensky is Jewish.

Take note.

I do t say you are not a Christian simply because you disagree with me.

That’s what quality argumentation looks like.

Zelensky probably does have to do vanity fair because democratic leadership is pretty shallow that way.

Putin is definitely a greater threat to you and Christian values.

He is KGB.

[fieldmarshaldj]

You can declare yourself to be a fudgesicle, it doesn’t make it so. Just as some Republicans claim to be “Republicans in good standing” when they support Demonrats and Demonrat positions, but they are not.

Zelensky is not Jewish. He may be born of Jewish heritage, he is not Jewish. His god is money and power. Just as you claim to be Christian, yet you flagrantly and pathologically lie, support the Satanic Sodomite globalist agenda and revel in the murder of Russians, that is not Christian.

I don’t have a pathological hatred of Putin and Russians as you do. I have sympathy for the Ukrainian people, who have been misled and sacrificed by their treasonous and degenerate scum “leaders.” The same corrupt, treasonous and degenerate scum running our country.

[Zathras]

Getting involved in Ukraine is almost as dumb as getting involved in Afghanistan.
Another dumb idea created by the GOP-e

[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

Yep

[lonestar67]

I feel sorry for the Russian people being misled by a leader much worse than Zelensky.

You know him as Putin the fake Christian who is actually KGB

Putin is much more corrupt than Zelensky.

[fieldmarshaldj]

No, but thanks for playing.

Putin is a Christian nationalist who fights the degenerate globalist Sodomarchy evil.

Zelensky is a treasonous, Satanic globalist pushing the glorious Sodomite agenda onto his state during a war.

[lonestar67]

Putin has stated plainly and directly that the United States is his foremost enemy.

Zelensky has never said any such thing.

Putin has nuclear weapons targeted at the United States.

Zelensky has zero nuclear weapons targeted at the U.S.

Putin is not a Christian nationalist. That is why he sends Muslim soldiers into Ukraine to kill Christian soldiers fighting in Ukraine.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"Putin has stated plainly and directly that the United States is his foremost enemy."

The illegal regime and culture of the United States is anti-Christian and globalist-degenerate. Soros and his fellow globalist Derp Staters have too much power, installing puppets with the explicit intention of destroying the United States. They and their agenda are inherently evil. Why would Putin support such an evil state as we are at present when he is a Christian ? The Pedophile in the White House is not a Christian and he does not support any moral, ethical or Christian agenda.

"Zelensky has never said any such thing."

Why would he ? He's a corrupt, treasonous, globalist degenerate with the shared agenda as the corrupt, treasonous, globalist degenerate regime in this country and the same puppetmasters.

"Putin has nuclear weapons targeted at the United States."

So does the United States.

"Zelensky has zero nuclear weapons targeted at the U.S."

I'm not aware of Ukraine's military arsenal. As I said above, why would he point his weapons at a similarly degenerate ally ? One that he is trying to entice into triggering WW3 ?

"Putin is not a Christian nationalist. That is why he sends Muslim soldiers into Ukraine to kill Christian soldiers fighting in Ukraine."

Putin is a Christian nationalist. Why would a Ukrainian Christian fight for an evil, globalist and anti-Christian puppet regime ? Ukrainian Christians must remove the treasonous, degenerate regime in Kyiv responsible for the casualties. Will you join me and millions of others in calling for the toppling of Zelensky and his being brought to justice for his treason and crimes against humanity and attempts to trigger WW3 ?

[lonestar67]

“The illegal regime and culture of the United States is anti-Christian and globalist-degenerate. Soros and his fellow globalist Derp Staters have too much power, installing puppets with the explicit intention of destroying the United States. They and their agenda are inherently evil. Why would Putin support such an evil state as we are at present when he is a Christian ? The Pedophile in the White House is not a Christian and he does not support any moral, ethical or Christian agenda.”

Have you considered moving to Russia?

This seems like a rather impossible situation for you here in the United States.

I understand that Brittney Griner is really enjoying her time there in Russia. Seems like now might be the perfect time.

Alternatively: I hope the Russians are at least paying you for your posts because it does seem like they should just let the nukes fly given what you are describing as the US.

Putin is not a Christian and it is noteworthy to me that you are more ready to accept him as a Christian than me. I do not understand why you make such totalizing statements about people “They are not a Christian”— “They are not a Jew”— when in fact you simply disagree with the person on particular issues.

You say of Zelensky: “Why would he ? He’s a corrupt, treasonous, globalist degenerate with the shared agenda as the corrupt, treasonous, globalist degenerate regime in this country and the same puppetmasters.”

Well he would say those things because as you say he is corrupt treasonous etc. So he would say— as Putin has— the United States is my foremost enemy. He would publicly swear allegiance to Soros and declare the United States as an enemy. He would also not have taken the lethal aid from the United States provide by President Trump— because he would have hated the United States. And though the United States is completely anti-Christian and should be opposed you explain that Zelensky is secretly opposed to the United States that he should be opposed to bec cause it is a globalist deep state. Your argument is completely and thoroughly contradictory .

I want to reassure you that the United States does not have nuclear weapons targeted at the United States. But Russia does have nuclear weapons targeted at the United States. Those things will kill you by the way.

Ukraine used to have nuclear weapons but we talked them out of having them and promised we would protect them from Russia. Yes that is a little fact your putin loving friends will not tell you about the US and Ukrainian deals in the 1990s.

I suspect the reason Christian Ukrainian soldiers fight for their country is because they love their country —sort of like how you love your country— Russia. ;)

I will not join you in calling for Zelensky to step down. The nice thing about that is that it will result in the killing of more Russian soldiers and forestall the second genocide of Ukrainians carried out by Russians.

Would you Field Marshal join me in calling for Vlaidimir Putin to step down from his treasonous murderous post and forestall world war 3? I know you want to prevent world war 3 and more Putin War Crimes, so would you join me in the moral cause?

Thank you.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"Have you considered moving to Russia? This seems like a rather impossible situation for you here in the United States."

What part of the present situation in the United States do you disagree with ?

"I understand that Brittney Griner is really enjoying her time there in Russia. Seems like now might be the perfect time."

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. It shows the difference between a lawless society for privileged pukes like Griner vs. a society that is serious about enforcing the law. 9 years. Ironically, Griner hates America despite the fact it has become the degenerate regime it wants it to be, and now it will have time to think about it's own stupidity.

"Alternatively: I hope the Russians are at least paying you for your posts because it does seem like they should just let the nukes fly given what you are describing as the US."

Sorry to disappoint you. What are they paying you to push the globalist Sorosbot agenda on FR ?

"Putin is not a Christian and it is noteworthy to me that you are more ready to accept him as a Christian than me."

Nothing noteworthy to people that know Him that Putin is a Christian.

"I do not understand why you make such totalizing statements about people “They are not a Christian”— “They are not a Jew”— when in fact you simply disagree with the person on particular issues."

Because either they are or they aren't. There are Christian and/or Jewish behaviors and there are behaviors that are antithetical to both. If a person is perpetually demonstrating actions and behaviors wholly in opposition to what they claim to be, they are exposed as frauds. Putin is a Christian in his actions. Zelensky is a non-Jew in his actions. You do not demonstrate any level of Christian behavior or conduct in your posts and interactions despite claiming otherwise. By their fruits, you shall know them.

"Well he would say those things because as you say he is corrupt treasonous etc. So he would say— as Putin has— the United States is my foremost enemy. He would publicly swear allegiance to Soros and declare the United States as an enemy."

Zelensky, Soros & the Pedophile are on the same side.

"He would also not have taken the lethal aid from the United States provide by President Trump— because he would have hated the United States. And though the United States is completely anti-Christian and should be opposed you explain that Zelensky is secretly opposed to the United States that he should be opposed to because it is a globalist deep state. Your argument is completely and thoroughly contradictory."

Did you just read what you typed ? That's not even a coherent paragraph. But then again, you perpetually accuse me of everything you yourself are guilty of.

"I want to reassure you that the United States does not have nuclear weapons targeted at the United States. But Russia does have nuclear weapons targeted at the United States. Those things will kill you by the way."

Reassure me of facts ? That's not something you're capable of doing. But you are an expert at spewing forth the globalist talking points. Actually, I am concerned about the nukes. If you're concerned about Russian nukes, you certainly don't act that way with wanting to start WW3 over Ukraine. The other 99.99% of us here on FR wish to stay the hell out of it. You don't.

"Ukraine used to have nuclear weapons but we talked them out of having them and promised we would protect them from Russia. Yes that is a little fact your putin loving friends will not tell you about the US and Ukrainian deals in the 1990s."

Presuming you accidentally stated a truth, it's a damn good thing Ukraine doesn't have them. Their corruption from day #1 has proven they should not be entrusted with any such weapons of mass destruction. As for defending them, I don't recall agreeing to starting WW3 over a corrupt and degenerate state. That's one deal we most assuredly should "break."

"I suspect the reason Christian Ukrainian soldiers fight for their country is because they love their country —sort of like how you love your country— Russia. ;)"

Except Ukraine has been bought and sold and Christians need not apply. They need to liberate their own nation from the Zelensky traitor.

"I will not join you in calling for Zelensky to step down."

Which is the key point all along. You support a corrupt globalist degenerate warmongering pushing for WW3. I look forward to his being hunted down and tried for crimes against humanity and high treason.

[lonestar67]

So you do concede to calling for the ouster of Putin.

That encourages me.

[fieldmarshaldj]

You claim to be a Christian. Where in the Bible does it say it’s A-OK to perpetually keep lying and bearing false witness ? This is not Christian behavior.

But then, your doing so in defense of Zelensky, a treasonous globalist and corrupt puppet degenerate who presides over a sex-trafficking state, and one who is explicitly and deliberately attempting to trigger WW3, rather says it all about you.

[lonestar67]

You did not respond to my call for the ouster of Putin.

That makes it a conceded argument.

Zelensky is a much better and less dangerous leader than Putin.

Putin is encouraging all the adverse impacts you note more than Zelensky.

[Sgt_Schultze]

Nope

[fieldmarshaldj]

You failed to answer anything in my post #452. You just simply lied for the umpteenth time. Are you trying to break your own personal best ?

Zelensky was again exposed openly pushing for the Sodomite globalist civilization-destroying agenda, and in the middle of a war. Because that means more to him. He’s twisted, sick, and most of all, evil. President Putin knows where that agenda belongs, consigned to the pits of hell.

But, hey, keep telling me how much of a Christian you are as a diehard Zelensky bootlicker and globalist Sorosbot warmonger.

[nutmeg]

NOT involved

[lonestar67]

I did not argue that you are not a Christian. You made that argument and its ridiculous. You are not God and have no stature to decide whether others have a faithful status.

That is for God and not for you.

I have not lied to you one time in this long thread. You ignore many important facts as this goes along and assert many lies — such as you are not Christian and Zelensky is not Jewish. Those are both lies you espouse freely but I do not think that gives me any privilege to say you are not a Christian.

You ask in post 452 what I disagree with in the US:

I already told you I voted for Trump in 2020 and think there was considerable cheating in the election. I definitely oppose gay marriage and many other sexualizing agendas of the current government but I definitely do not think Putin is trying to help reverse that or help the United States recover.

You say Griner hates America. She clearly does and as far as I can tell so do you. I definitely do not hate America. I am under no illusions that Russia is somehow better or really a great Christian nation. Here again you ignore explicit evidence that in 2016 Putin signed legislation allowing Christians to be arrested for encoring any faith outside the Russian Orthodox church.

You say I am pushing “globalist Sorosbot agenda.” This is more hyperbolic nonsense without evidence. This is how you and so many Putinbots cope with the unfavorable comparisons between Putin and Zelensky. George Soros and his bad agenda somehow united your impossible contradictions into some uniform political good. I do not see evidence of that at all. You hate the United States. . Putin Hates the United States. I am not in some sort of conspiracy with agents against the United States. I love the United States and understand its successes and limitations. Putin does not wish us well. Zelensky does seek to liberate his nation from Russian domination much like our effort to be free from Britain and its empire.

You say people know Putin is a Christian. I think there is no evidence of that and an abundance of evidence for anti Christian conduct. He kills innocent people inside and outside Russia with impunity. He jails anyone he thinks is a political rival. There is nothing contrite about his public behaviors.

I completely agree that we will know people by their fruits. Your reckless rhetoric reveals you. I accept you as a Christian with misguided opinions. I would not pretend you are not a Christian because I disagree with you. I definitely accept that Zelensky is Jewish. Putin’s big lie that he is hunting Nazis in Ukraine requires that you join him in that big lie to say that he is in league with Satan. That is more hyperbolic nonsense. Here again, you do not deny that Putin literally has “Satan” missiles that he mockingly applauds as being aimed at the United States and being among the most powerful nuclear warheads on the planet.

You have no response but to say that you rather admire Putin.

You say Zelensky, Soros and the Pedophile agree. Zelensky needs more of the lethal aid he obtained from President Trump and which Biden and Obama refused to provide. You are a reactionary who fails to think through reflexive opposition to Biden will harm your own interests. Lethal aid that Trump provided to Ukraine was and is correct. That aid was provided in 2019 from Trump to Zelensky.

You also asked if I read what I typed. I did. It was incoherent nonsense because I am repeating your argument. You hate American because Biden is President. This is the reactionary problem you are having. Because you hate Biden you think Putin is your friend and Zelensky is your enemy. You are not thinking clearly. Putin is one of the foremost enemies of the United States. Moreover Zelensky was an ally of Trump. So you are vulnerable to me irrationally saying you hate Trump because you oppose his lethal aid to Ukraine policy. Your logic is an incoherent mess.

You attack me about wanting to start World War III. This is more nonsense. Russia invaded Ukraine. its not the other way around. In taking this action of war, Putin is risking world war III. Appeasing Putin would only encourage him to take other states in Europe the same way—also bringing us closer to World War III. I am guessing you and other putin bots will say something similar if china invades Taiwan. Taiwan is some sort of Soros plot so they brought it on themselves. It is not in our interest to have a strong Putin driven Russia.

By forcing Ukraine to give up nuclear weapons we increased the likelihood of world war III and encouraged Russia to consider invading the state. We broke our written promise to Ukraine saying we would defend them.

You say Ukraine is bought and sold. This is more nonsense because these actually Christian soldiers are fighting and giving their lives for the independence of their nation whereas you and I are clicking keys on a keyboard. These over broad assertions you make about the totality of souls and nations is once again severely misguided. You do not acknowledge that Putin sends in Islamic supremacists into Ukraine to kill Christian families and soldiers in Ukraine. No Christian leader would do that. It reveals that Putin is a powerful dictator and not some acolyte of the Christian church. He loves Islamic radicalism and what it can do for his political interests to kill Christians. You have no answer for this fact.

You conclude:

“You support a corrupt globalist degenerate warmongering pushing for WW3. I look forward to his being hunted down and tried for crimes against humanity and high treason.”

More hyperbolic nonsense. Defending one’s country is treason? Of course it is not. The only treason is against the Russian Putin Super state where Putin owns any global territory he sets his mind to. Ukraine is not Russia. Its that simple and therefore it cannot be treason to defend Ukraine. The most severe warmonger in this analysis is Putin. He has repeatedly attacked Ukraine seeking war and he engages in war activity throughout the globe.

That is why Trump killed 200 of his precious Russian soldiers in Syria. Because Trump saw what you refuse to see. Putin is a ruthless opponent.

You are licking Putin’s boots. You have contempt for Trump’s ally Zelensky.

You have failed to prove any of your points.

[x]

There’s involved and involved. We should support Ukraine with material aid. Russia taking over would be a bad thing. But we shouldn’t send troops, and there will probably have to be a negotiated settlement, not a clear victory for one side or the other.