Posted on 06/25/2022 2:27:21 PM PDT by Morgana
Abortion was a hot-button issue on Friday night's episode of Real Time with Bill Maher, with the HBO host saying Americans are 'living in two different countries' after the Supreme Court voted to overturn its landmark decision granting Americans the right to an abortion.
Bill Maher began his panel discussion with Andrew Sullivan, a blogger for The Weekly Dish, and Katie Herzog, cohost of the podcast Blocked and Reported, by insisting that Republicans 'played the long game' to get Roe v Wade overturned.
'They play the long game,' he said. 'They knew this from the beginning, they put six Catholics on the Supreme Court.'
But Sullivan disagreed, saying things could have been different in Hillary Clinton won the presidential election in 2016 or if Ruth Bader Ginsberg resigned and allowed a Democrat to appoint a judge.
'It was luck, to some extent,' he argued. 'This is about Trump adding three people.'
Still, Maher said: 'If it wasn't this time, it would have been next time.
'So what are we going to do now that we're basically living in two different countries?' Maher asked his panelists, noting that some states are now likely to overturn abortion rights, while others will keep it legal.
'I mean there are countries like this, Israel certainly comes to mind,' Maher said. 'We're going to be living in that kind of country.'
Sullivan, though, went on to argue that the United States has always been divided, pointing out that people in Alabama and Oregon have different ideals.
'It doesn't have to be one consistent national opinion,' Sullivan said, while Herzog seemed to blame the lack of a center in politics.
'The pendulum swings further and further to the left and right,' she said. 'There's no center.'
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Ditto for George Carlin.
Oh that’s his father. Turned against the Church. No word in wiki on this guys upbringing in his own Wikipedia page.
Anyway, he’s like the women on the view. All emotional argument misuse of charisma working against entities they know absolutely nothing about
blue controlled areas are complete cesspools.
red controlled areas are called America.
life in America is great.
As if the Democrats don’t want a super majority.
And now some of them want to “dissolve” the Supreme Court and appoint completely new judges, all far-left of course. I’d say the possibility of assassination is very real.
Actually, a lot of problems with the Supreme Court have been caused by Republican presidents not choosing wisely. Blackmun, Souter, and Roberts come quickly to mind.
This comes real close to identifying the problem. It is not "lack of a center in politics". It is the fact that progressives want to define too many things as "politics".
Many of us do not believe that it is a political matter whether or not a woman kills her unborn baby.
Similarly, many of us do not believe that it is a political matter whether or not a gender-dysphoric 12-year-old boy is encouraged and permitted to undergo irreversible surgery to remove his genitals.
Many of us do not think it a political matter to allow castrated boys to compete against girls in high school sports.
I'm convinced of all this despite not being a biologist.
But it was okay when the liberals held the court?
No, people in Portlandia and other urban degeneracies have different ideals from the normals. Remove Portlandia, Eugene and those lunatic anti-God areas and the rest of Oregon is sane and normal like much of Alabama.
True - those cities drag down Oregon like Chicago and East St.Louis contaminate Illinois. NYC and Ithica, Memphis and Nashville. Austin and...I’m not sure. We’re onto a theme here.
East Saint Louis isn’t in much of a position to adversely impact IL. Its population has rapidly dwindled to 18,000 as of 2020, where it once was 82,000. There’s barely over 200 White people living there and nearly 10,000 Blacks fled from 2010-20. At the rate it’s going, it will be lucky to still have 10,000 people by 2030.
Large swaths of it are abandoned, many blocks have but few homes, and many of those are abandoned or in rapid decay, while other areas have returned to nature (fields and woods). Having reviewed it at street level on Google Maps several years ago just to survey it, there’s virtually not a single historic home left, and only a handful of historic buildings left in the downtown, and those appeared unoccupied. It is almost best described as a ghost town.
Prichard, Alabama, which once was a mixed-race city of nearly 50,000 bordering Mobile has a similar story. The Whites all but fled and it has dropped to a population identical with East Saint Louis with a similar description and a nearly dead/abandoned downtown with nothing historical whatsoever. Sad.
Wow; thanks for the great report. I lived in a very thriving suburb of ESL as a kid in the late 1960s. Nearly all middle class working whites, many 2nd generation from legal immigrant parents, WWII and Korean vets very prevalent and good unions with excellent retirements in place. Neighbors knew each other from church and cook-outs. There were no gangs, burglaries, homelessness or bankruptcies. What few murders happened were usually the cheating spouse variety.
We kids got away with very little while learning good citizenship from their example. Played rough compared to these snowflakes: a good week had a pellet or two extracted, or wounds from bike tricks over concrete with jutting rebar. I don’t think they play the dodge-ball game “Smear the Queer” anymore, either.
Back to topic: Both parties have sought ideological domination of the Supreme Court just as they’ve always sought numerical superiority of both halves of Congress. That’s the nature of the game and neither pot can call the kettle black. Pelosi is especially asinine accusing Republicans of court-stacking while her partisanship has been the worst in House leadership history (Unselect Committee). Her husband walks on a DUI while her political prisoners can’t get bail? The reckoning is coming.
Back in the days of the Warren Court, the liberals would taunt us by saying we needed to win enough presidential elections to change the Supreme Court over time. When we did so, the libs started Borking them.
Now they accuse us of doing what they told us to do.
Funny thing is the second-worst city in NJ (Irvington) doesn’t have too many abandoned buildings - it’s just populated with Section 8ers and some stubborn members of the lower middle class who are holding on until they can retire down south.
I think of Illinois, and the state has let the true historic city of Cairo completely die. They could’ve used some jobs, investment and state largesse, and instead it’s turned into a ghost town. ESL can probably turn around in the future because of its proximity to St. Louis, but Cairo’s loss is much worse.
Illinois is the only state that I have lived in that is more poorly run than NJ where I live now - state government is worthless and corrupt, county governments are patronage organizations with little actual power, leaving us at the mercy of the petty fiefdoms at the municipal level.
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