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The Texas shooting shows the futility of arming teachers
MSNBC ^ | May 25, 2022 | Zeeshan Aleem

Posted on 05/26/2022 10:30:37 AM PDT by lowbridge

Hardcore opponents of gun control in the U.S. often respond to school shootings by proposing to arm teachers or add armed security guards to schools. But the inability of police to stop the gunman at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, before he killed at least 19 children and two teachers Tuesday exposes the poor reasoning behind that proposal.

While all the details of the shooting are not yet clear, authorities’ accounts revealed that the gunman was confronted by multiple armed police officers — yet they were unable to stop him before he killed nearly two dozen people.

The gunman reportedly crashed his truck in a ditch near the campus before entering the school, and police officers arrived at the school after a report of that crash.

According to CBS News’ summary of Texas Department of Public Safety Lt. Christopher Olivarez’s account, the shooter “stormed Robb Elementary School in the small city of Uvalde shortly after crashing his car in the area and immediately engaged in gunfire with state troopers on the scene. The gunman shot several police officers and then locked himself in a classroom.”

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According to various reports, after local officers called for backup, a specialized tactical unit made it into the classroom a full hour after the gunman entered the school, and an agent of an elite law enforcement unit was involved in killing the gunman. (That agent was injured in the process.)

Given those details, I find it increasingly impossible to understand how one could believe that the solution to school shootings is arming teachers or having a security guard protecting every school. If a group of police officers couldn’t stop a shooter, then why would we expect an individual teacher or security guard to do better?

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1 posted on 05/26/2022 10:30:37 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Talk about your major ‘deflecting’...


2 posted on 05/26/2022 10:31:47 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: lowbridge

Such is the “logic” of folks to whom the operation of a wedge is considered high level physics.


3 posted on 05/26/2022 10:32:16 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: lowbridge

The teachers in Uvalde were not armed. This whole article is a BS strawman.


4 posted on 05/26/2022 10:32:22 AM PDT by MortMan (You better bring yours, when you come to take mine. - Creed Fisher)
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To: lowbridge

Only a complete idiot could write this.


5 posted on 05/26/2022 10:32:55 AM PDT by Bayan
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To: lowbridge
If a group of police officers couldn't stop a shooter, then why would we expect an individual teacher or security guard to do better?

1)The element of surprise. 2) Deterrence in the first place might have prevented this in the first place because as we know, schools are gun free zones.

6 posted on 05/26/2022 10:33:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: lowbridge

That’s some real pretzel logic right there......liberals truly do live in an alternate reality.

SMH


7 posted on 05/26/2022 10:33:12 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: lowbridge

The shooter was a “person of color”, making the police hold their hands so that they’re not racist.


8 posted on 05/26/2022 10:34:16 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Pssssttttt. The teachers are already inside. So, msnbheehaw can simply phu cough.


9 posted on 05/26/2022 10:34:18 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: V_TWIN
That’s some real pretzel logic right there......liberals truly do live in an alternate reality.

Well, they get an F for trying at least.

10 posted on 05/26/2022 10:34:21 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: lowbridge
There were no armed teachers and the cops took an hour before going in...so the conclusion is arming teachers or having armed security inside could not have helped?


11 posted on 05/26/2022 10:34:25 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Bayan

“Zeeshan Aleem”

I hear that means “born a moron” in arabic


12 posted on 05/26/2022 10:35:00 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: lowbridge
But the inability of police to stop the gunman at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, before he killed at least 19 children and two teachers Tuesday exposes the poor reasoning behind that proposal.

That's because they stood around for 40 minutes to get the body count up.

13 posted on 05/26/2022 10:35:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Affirmative action is systemic/institutional racism/sexism targeting straight, white males.)
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To: lowbridge
Given those details, I find it increasingly impossible to understand how one could believe that the solution to school shootings is arming teachers or having a security guard protecting every school. If a group of police officers couldn’t stop a shooter, then why would we expect an individual teacher or security guard to do better?

I dunno, you should ask Israel.


14 posted on 05/26/2022 10:35:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (ELON MUSK IS THE CORPORATE VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: lowbridge

Depends on how they’re trained


15 posted on 05/26/2022 10:35:59 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Magnum44

It’s all a probability and odds issue anyway. More defensive arms reduces the number of innocents lost, but never down to zero.

This author is a nitwit and a liar.


16 posted on 05/26/2022 10:36:33 AM PDT by Cboldt
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The Texas shooting shows the futility of arming teachers LEOs

quite a few LEOs with tactical gear, including two US Marshalls. At least two LEOs wearing tactical gear that included a helmet. And they all stood around waiting for a special team from Border Patrol.

US Marshall

US Marshall

Sheriff

Not sure what this one is TX State Trooper? End of video shows a few State Trooper SUVs


17 posted on 05/26/2022 10:37:46 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: lowbridge

Who is this dumbass Zeeshan Aleem?

If either of the 2 teacher victims was armed, it’s news to me.

And if they were - and the shooter knew that teachers were armed, I’ll bet my left nut that he wouldn’t have gone there.


18 posted on 05/26/2022 10:38:38 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: lowbridge

The moron who penned this piece cannot understand that he teacher in that classroom was inside and could have taken this bastard out fast before all the killing.

Cops couldn’t stop him because he went inside and locked the class door. An armed teacher in the room could have taken him out.


19 posted on 05/26/2022 10:39:04 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: lowbridge
The Texas shooting shows the futility of arming teachers

And it also shows why you should never give up your guns - the police will not rush in to protect you.

20 posted on 05/26/2022 10:39:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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