Posted on 04/05/2022 12:09:13 PM PDT by Red Badger
VIDEO at link................
Update — No charges will be filed…
YOUR THOUGHTS?
SELF DEFENSE?
2ND DEGREE MURDER?
1ST DEGREE?
Stand your ground?
Castle Doctrine?.......................
Is this the secret Freeper psychic test? (state?)
“came at him and tried to take the gun”
A Kyle Ritterhouse scenario.
What charge? Littering?
Oh, stop bleating and man up! This man did what he had to do and took care of business. There should be a lot more men like him. There would be much less crime and much more civility. Be a man. Or not, do it your way, farm out your manly responsibility to 911, and let men less capable and knowledgeable than yourself take care of the problem. I'll bet this man's wife appreciates him, waddya'think?
Wow, you really are hard over in your personal but flawed opinion of the situation.
Recourse for a custody violation is for the court to pursue. Sorry, a court order for visitation means it is the court who is injured when one party does not comply, not just the emotional parent.
Example, dead beat dads still get their ordered visitation even though they are $10s of k in arrears. The mother is beholden to the court for redress, she cannot simply say “no visit until you pay up”.
The dead dad should’ve gone the lawful route, instead he died violating several TX laws concerning property, threat of unlawful force to say the least.
The shooter had every right to possess arms, and to go fetch one when dad decided to refuse to comply with the lawful rights of a property owner.
He provided the owner with the three tenets of justified use of (lethal) force.
Au Contraire..Some must die to serve as a bad example for others.
Somebody has to be the bad example so others can learn a lesson and live.
Not outside, on the porch. This has been ruled on. Perfectly legal castle doctrine defence.
Speed rock, mag dump...
Well, shoot to stop but if it takes all fourteen....
I tend not to state what I’d do if and so,just do t want stuff written or said in theory to be useful to a third party.
The internet is forever....
That is not how that clause works. If the landowner reasonably believes that engaging the trespasser would put them at risk of serious bodily injury or death, they can opt for deadly force and do not have to resort to hand to hand first.
When the trespasser is significantly larger than the landowner, it is generally accepted by the courts as more than enough reasonable belief. To say otherwise would require 5’0” 100lb women to go hand to hand with 6’5” 300lb men before they could use a gun, which is f***ing stupid. By the case law standard, the big meathead was automatically a threat of serious bodily injury or death by the obvious size and strength difference. Under Texas law, simply being an aggressive trespasser of his stature relative to the landowner was all that was required to satisfy that element of the law.
The inverse of this is why it is *not* legal to use deadly force to run those annoying Girl Scouts selling cookies door to door off your land - they’re not big enough to reasonably pose a threat of serious bodily harm or death to you. Your wallet and your pants size, maybe, but not you personally.
I suspect (but have no proof) that someone that big is likely on recreational pharmaceuticals and will probably not go down immediately. Also, a mag dump is to some in the legal profession a clear sign that you feared for your life, etc. For me to be in the same relative position as the landowner here, the other guy would have to be about 6’8” and half-Samoan NFL defensive linebacker size and strength. You bet your arse I’m going to be firing fast and furious until he stops in such a case, and someone that size is going to take a *lot* of stopping.
“In defense of his wife...”
Take it easy there Will Smith.
There didn’t appear to be anything too serious until retard number one decided to introduce the weapon. Then retard number two had to jump straight to triple dog dare.
“He warned the guy to get off his property...”
Fair enough. But, things get cloudy when we start asking if the wife is just visiting or if she lives there as well, and did this occur during a court mandated parental visit.
Certainly not questioning the tactics.
I agree that the point of us I g jufitied lethal for us to stop a threat, one shot or 30.
The only concern following such use of force or pre-stating the mag dump as you describe may not be reasonable in any given situation and such statements have used by prosecutors in cases of lethal force and leads towards predetermined intent not a case by case response.
Reckless endangerment. Discharging a firearm towards a human. Assault with a deadly weapon [with an aim towards plea bargaining down to a misdemeanor]. There’s all kinds of things that the DA could do. It was a bad shoot. But it is not a prosecutable one.
Littering. That’s a good one. Improper disposal of chemical explosives.
In Texas law, provided nobody else got hit and it’s a legal shoot, none of those will stick and it will make the DA look foolish. The DA might lose their election next year because it makes him look like a sore loser.
It also would set a bad precedent for other legitimate defensive shooting and give Soros DAs bad ideas.
Yes, I’m aware of prosecutorial use in this area. However - I said that it would be *if* I was in this exact situation. I don’t date divorcees with children, let alone divorcees with children and meathead exes, so the chances I would be in this specific situation are infinitesimally small. And every incident is different. Plus I’m on record in a couple of incidents where I had someone at gunpoint and did *not* shoot.
If that last, the only correct course of action is to leave the property as requested and come back with the police. Anything else is either a dumb idea or will get you shot.
“.... correct course of action is to leave the property as requested and come back with the police.”
Without question, but I’m not seeing any of the 4 people involved acting rational.
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