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Barack Obama is Not Ineligible to the Office of POTUS
Vanity | March 31, 2022 | Jim Noble

Posted on 03/31/2022 11:13:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble

Since the Deep State is obviously about to kick Biden out, and since Harris is unfit to serve, it's time for discussion of one of my favorite parts of the Constitution - Amendment XXII.

This rushed Amendment, hastily drafted after the death of FDR, prevents a person who has served two terms as POTUS from BEING ELECTED again. Please read it for yourselves if you doubt this.

It does NOT amend or alter Article II and Amendment XII as regards eligibility to BE President - it just prevents a former President from getting back in office BY BEING ELECTED.

So- Biden resigns, Harris appoints Barack Obama VP and resigns, and he's back!

Please argue, from the text of XXII, why this is not possible.


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To: DMZFrank
Finally found it...Ivana Trump; became an American citizen in 1988, so you are correct about Don Jr. and Eric!
101 posted on 03/31/2022 5:34:28 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Impy; Jim Noble; BillyBoy

The 22nd Amendment states that no one may be elected president more than twice, and no one who has served over two years of a presidential term to which someone else was elected may be elected more than once. So Barack Obama may not be elected president again.

But ... a plain reading of the 22nd Amendment would certainly permit Barack Obama to be elected or appointed vice president, and then accede to the presidency, since he would not be *elected president* for a third time. There is no limitation in the 22nd Amendment regarding *serving* as president even if one has been elected president twice; had the amendment prohibited persons twice elected president from serving as president, it would mean that Reagan, Clinton, etc. would have had to resign the day after their reelection.

The question then would be whether the 12th Amendment, which clarifies that “no person ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President.” The key words are “ineligible to the office,” and, unless Barack Obama actually was born outside of the United States, he certainly is eligible to the office (i.e., to serve) as president.

So, yes, Barack Obama is constitutionally eligible to the office of vice president, and could be elected or appointed (the latter pursuant to the 25th Amendment, which would require confirmation by both houses of Congress) to the vice presidency; he also remains eligible to the office of the president, although he could not be elected president and would need to accede to the presidency pursuant to the line of succession.

But I agree with Impy that there is no way that Kamala Harris would resign the VP now that being appointed to the Supreme Court (the only thing that might tempt Kamala) is out of the question due to KBJ’s certain confirmation. I’m not so sure about whether Biden would resist the call to resign if Obama, Clyburn, Schumer, Pelosi, Klein, etc. all said that it would be a great patriotic act for him to resign in favor of his VP; only because Biden stumbled into the worst VP imaginable, someone who would sink Democrats’ 2022 hopes even more where she to become president, is a Biden resignation unthinkable for Democrat bigwigs.


102 posted on 03/31/2022 5:44:08 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: nopardons

Thank you for the reply. Ivana Trump was a Czech citizen, lawfully resident in the US when Don Jr. was born. Czech citizenship law made him a Czech citizen due to the FACT that his mother was still a Czech citizen and had not renounced it via the US Naturalization process. US law is the same as Czech law in this regard.

Don jr. is a US citizen (not a NATURAL BORN US citizen) by virtue of the 14th amendment and by the US Immigration and Naturalization Act due to his US citizen father.

I like Don Jr. He would probably be a good POTUS. He fights, and he has conservative integrity. None of this changes the fact that he is not Article II eligible.

Those of us who are concerned about the innumerable pernicious globalist influences on the US constitution intend to keep raising this issue until it is formally adjudicated by a competent entity (SCOTUS or another Article III court) for the first time in US history. Conservatives should not be so willing to discard the protections intended by the natural born citizen clause because it may be expedient.

We may not be able to prevent our natural born DEMONRAT (and other) Natural Born Citizens from becoming POTUS, but we can at least winnow the opposition by keeping the traitorous ineligibles out!!!


103 posted on 03/31/2022 5:57:52 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank
We are on the same page, which is why I looked and looked, until I finally found Ivana's date of becoming a Naturalized Citizen!

Our Constitution lays out, in very clear language, the rules/laws that should govern our nation. And no matter WHOM it hurts/restricts ( I agree about the Trump boys, both would make good presidents ), from being president and V.P., we need to hold to the LAW! Obama was an ILLEGITIMATE presidents ( also born on the wrong side of the sheets, so to speak )and Harris, an "anchor baby", has even LESS "right" to be VEEP; let alone president, than Obama, whose mother was an American citizen!

104 posted on 03/31/2022 6:27:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jim Noble

12th Amendment to the US Constitution

...[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States....

Instead of just reading the bits of the constitution that support your silly argument, try reading THE WHOLE THING.

105 posted on 03/31/2022 8:07:23 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: nickcarraway; rlmorel

It was more convoluted than that.

William R Davis*, funneled nazi money to numerous anti war groups who were trying to keep the U.S. out of the war in Europe.

These groups such as the “No Foreign War Committee” and “America First Committee” were being funded by both the nazis and the soviets.

The soviets tried to take over the AFC, and when Barbarossa happened, the soviets quickly labeled the AFC as nazi collaborators.

*William R Davis’s grandson would later become the governor of California BTW.


106 posted on 03/31/2022 8:24:04 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: Uncle Sham
Wrong. He was NEVER a legal President. He was a usurper.

Your point is moot. He was administered the oath of office and served as POTUS.

107 posted on 03/31/2022 8:26:16 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Jim Noble
The Constitution is more succinct and less pedantic than arguments of "being" versus "being elected."

If you are constitutionally ineligible to the office of President, you MAY NOT BE VEEP either.

108 posted on 03/31/2022 8:51:41 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli

But Obama is not “constitutionally ineligible to the office”. That’s my whole point.

He just can’t be ELECTED to the office. There are other ways to become President.


109 posted on 03/31/2022 11:21:16 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: billstephens1959

They love making deals in the Senate. How about Thomas resigns for health reasons (he gets to live), Harris moves to Supreme Court (she gets to live and doesn’t have to keep embarrassing herself), Barack is confirmed (50 Ds + Romney, Murkowski, Collins, Graham etc), Biden goes back to the basement (Jill isn’t as powerful as she thinks.)


110 posted on 04/02/2022 6:54:19 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: Jim Noble
He just can’t be ELECTED to the office. There are other ways to become President.

You are absolutely correct, however, good luck with the legal scholars who do not believe the Constitution means what its words say.

Gerald Ford was President and he was never elected President or Vice-President.

During the Ford administration, neither the President, nor the Vice-President (Nelson Rockefeller), had been elected to either office.

111 posted on 04/02/2022 1:39:10 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Paal Gulli

My point stands. He was NEVER a LEGAL President. The language in the U.S. Constitution says so. That oath business is window dressing.


112 posted on 04/08/2022 1:58:35 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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